From: Rich Grise on
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:25:18 -0800, Joerg wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:
>>
>> But the ice sheet wasn't growing directly on top of the farm, was it
>>
> No, but obviously the growing ice pack caused it, didn't it? I have the
> feeling you will not accept any proof and will try to find all sorts of
> excuses and hair in the soup. What's next? Their language wasn't Norwegian
> enough anymore so they don't count?

Cooking the books:
http://www.gocomics.com/chipbok/2009/11/25/

Cheers!
Rich

From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:06:35 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com
wrote:

>On Nov 29, 1:58�pm, John Larkin
><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:44:05 -0600, John Fields
>>
>>
>>
>> <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>> >On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:44:43 -0800, John Larkin
>> ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:31:39 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
>> >><bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> >>>> It's been some time since you posted anything interesting or useful
>> >>>> about electronic design. Last thing I remember is your perplexity that
>> >>>> a simple oscillator simulation refused to squegg.
>>
>> >>>That seems to reflect a weakness of the Gummel-Poon model. I'm working
>> >>>on it.
>>
>> >>But you used mosfets.
>>
>> >---
>> >Priceless!!!
>>
>> >JF
>>
>> Sloman is clearly confused. I was of the impression that he was a
>> sour, mean-spirited old git, but it's likely that he is actually
>> delusional. As such, it's neither kind nor productive to argue with
>> him.
>
>He's gotta be maxed out over his heart. That's no fun. Maybe we
>should have mercy, lest he explode it.

Agonizing and arguing over something you can't affect (ie, AGW and
Exxon) is a sure source of stress, and longterm stress is a
cardiovascular killer. Designing and building electronics, on the
other hand, is both satisfying and relaxing.

John

From: Rich Grise on
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:35:46 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:38:44 -0800, Rich Grise <richgrise(a)example.net>
>
>>Once, we had a potato ricer, and we just served up the riced potatoes,
>>and they were fantastic - there's much more surface area (and holes) to
>>accommodate lots and lots of gravy. Yum! ;-)
>
> What's a potato ricer?
>
http://images.google.com/images?&q=%22potato+ricer%22

Cheers!
Rich

From: Jon Kirwan on
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:59:29 +0100, Uwe Hercksen
<hercksen(a)mew.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:

>Jon Kirwan schrieb:
>
>> Climate is averages, not noise. Not weather. And no one I know of,
>> least of all climate scientists, are stating that there will be
>> absolutely no cases where some particular glacier won't increase.
>> Cripes, if that were exactly true we'd be in a lot worse mess!
>
>Hello,
>
>96 % of all studied glaciers do shrink, and only the rest of 4 % do
>increase.

I'm aware of the general figures. A very interesting paper recently
came out, because it provides a greatly expanded update of estimates
of global average balance of small glaciers, from Cogley, J. G., 2009,
"Geodetic and direct mass-balance measurements: comparison and joint
analysis." It's available, in full, here:

http://www.igsoc.org/annals/50/50/a50a043.pdf

Another, from Kaser et al., 2006, "Mass balance of glaciers and ice
caps: Consensus estimates for 1961�2004?" is here:

http://www.hydro.washington.edu/pub/lettenmaier/lettenmaier_milly_2009/kaser_et_al_grl_2006.pdf

For those interested in a wonderful web page with a great many links
of the papers used in the recent Copenhagen Diagnosis, I'd refer them
here:

http://agwobserver.wordpress.com/

It is an incredible resource of papers that won't cost a cent.

Gruesse,
Jon
From: Joerg on
Uwe Hercksen wrote:
>
>
> Joerg schrieb:
>
>
>> Ahm, the glacier north of us on Mt.Shasta is growing ...
>
> Hello,
>
> but 96 % of all studied glaciers are shrinking. What is the use of
> argumenting only with a very small minority?
>

Bill mentioned "the glaciers aren't going to be coming back any time
soon" which isn't right. Quite a few do, right now, and it is necessary
to find an explanation why they do. Given the precipitation link I
posted we don't seem to have a sufficient explanation (yet).

--
Regards, Joerg

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