From: Bill Sloman on
On Dec 1, 6:50 am, "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:09:09 -0600, John Fields
>
> <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:59:33 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
> ><bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >>On Nov 28, 4:19 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:44:15 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> >>> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >>> >On Nov 28, 4:44 am, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >>> >> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:07:11 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> >>> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >>> >> >On Nov 26, 8:33 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:36:14 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> >>> >> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >It is a pity that I got it wrong. Peer review would probably have
> >>> >> >> >prevented this.
>
> >>> >> >> >James Arthur happens to be wrong - his concurrence doesn't create a
> >>> >> >> >concensus, which in practice is confined to the opinions of people who
> >>> >> >> >know what they are talking about.
>
> >>> >> >> ---
> >>> >> >> Then nothing you post would lead to the creation of a consensus..
>
> >>> >> >Certainly not to a concensus of which you'd form a part.
>
> >>> >> ---
> >>> >> I'd certainly keep it from becoming a consensus by showing you up for
> >>> >> the fraud you are.
>
> >>> >There you go again. I'm not a fraud, but you are too ignorant and dumb
> >>> >to get to grips with the evidnece that makes this obvious to the
> >>> >better equipped.
>
> >>> ---
> >>> As is typical with frauds, instead of honestly addressing the issues
> >>> causing contention, trying to resolve them amicably, and taking your
> >>> lumps when you deserve them, you resort to invective in order to try to
> >>> silence your critics.
>
> >>John Fields has learned the word 'amicable". It is sad that he shows
> >>no evidence of knowing what it means.
>
> >---
> >Really?
>
> >I get along quite well with almost everybody here, while you, with your
> >neverending pomposity and penchant for using deception to foment discord
> >seem to have trouble getting along with _anybody_.
> >---
>
> >><snipped the usual rubbish>
>
> >---
> >Of course...
>
> >Pretend what you can't counter is worthless.
>
> >JF
>
> And believe it or not I like and respect John Fields, Jim Thompson,
> Michael Terrell, Vladimir Vassilevsk, Jeorg, Jan P., Don K., James
> Arthur, Spehro, Martin Brown, Nico Cosel, Phil Hobbs, Frank Buss,
> Dimiter Popov, and many more.

I'm sure that they all can be likeable, in the right environment, and
can do respectable work in specific areas.

I've got no reason to like John Fields, Jim Thompson or Michael
Terrell. Their enthusiams for spouting total nonsense is irritating,
and some of the nonsense they come up with is.despicable.

James Arthur, Ravinghorde, John Larkin, Rich Grise and Jan Panteltje
have a similar enthusiasm for spouting nonsense, but they are deluded
rather than vicious.

I don't always agree with Jeorg, but like, Johm Larkin, Phil Hobbs,
and Spehro Pefhany, he's one of the people who make the group worth
following. Martin Brown, Vladimir Vassilevsky, Don Klipstein, Nico
Cosel and Frank Buss are in the same league, but I know less about
their areas of expertise.

Dimiter Popov has yet to catch my attention - or that of the Google
Gropus search engine. He doesn seem to post here at all.

I notice that you didn't endorse krw, who is another one of the
offensive right-wing nitwits, but he posts so little on-topic that
he's easy to miss.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen



From: John Fields on
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:02:12 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote:

>On Nov 29, 7:52�pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:32:54 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>>
>> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>> >On Nov 29, 5:08�am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:>
>> >> You living in the Netherlands so long, I would have expected you to speak Dutch too.
>>
>> >I do. I passed NT2 (Dutch as a second language) in reading, listening
>> >and speaking someyears ago. I didn't pass on my written Dutch - nobody
>> >has ever wanted me to write Dutch so I've never had enough practice to
>> >get rid of the minor grammatical errors.
>>
>> ---
>> Then you didn't pass on your written English, either, I surmise.
>
>Oddly enough, they didn't test me on that - it was a test of my
>comptetence in Dutch.

---
But, obviously, if the criteria the Dutch used to fail your written
Dutch were used by your instructor of English, your lack of
"comptetence" in written English wouldn't have allowed you to pass that
either.

JF
From: Bill Sloman on
On Dec 1, 12:35 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:45:10 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sloman
> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote in
> <747b02f7-9d2c-4bd2-9ecd-5c2ece16a...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Nov 30, 2:52 pm, John Fields <jfie...(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:05:30 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>
> >> <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >> >I can't really see the necessity to understand something that isn't
> >> >happening any more.
>
> >> ---
>
> >> Here; read a little Santayana:
>
> >> "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
>
> >The last ice age ended about 11,000 years ago. I don't think that
> >anybody could be expected to remember it.
>
> >Jan was encouraging me to understand the Earth's natural cycles, which
> >demands a little more involvement than merely remembering them, and is
> >- in any event - somewhat ironic, since the current understanding of
> >the causes of the ice ages leads directly to the conclusion that there
> >aren't going to be any more "natural" climate cycles to understand,
> >because anthropogenic effects have overwhelmed th natural driving
> >forces.
>
> Bull, your data A is in that noise!

One wonders why Jan thinks that. He clearly hasn't studied the data in
any kind of detail, and he clearly has notstudied the sort of physics
that would let him make much sense of what is ther to be studied, but
he still comes across as having total confidence in his daft ideas.

It would seemt that he is the kind of over-confident twit who can
"grasp things at glance" that the denialist propaganda is engineered
to suck in.

To his credit, he doesn't like the emotionalised propaganda that
Greenpeace spreads about, but that may reflect hs distaste for the
content of the message, rather than the way they chose to sell it.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Jim Thompson on
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:17:00 -0800,
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:41:47 -0600, John Fields
><jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:27:20 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
>><bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>
>So you have demonstrated what Bill is to your satisfaction. Well and
>good.
>
>Could you now just ignore him, even you are getting frustrated with
>the way his evasions waste everybody's time.
>
>What is it JT says? Something like "Let him die, alone and
>forgotten".

I'm always pleased to note that I'm the highest standard for Slowman's
disdain, but please don't feed the jerk. Let him die that most
unpleasant of deaths... alone ;-)

--
...Jim Thompson

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From: Jim Thompson on
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:53:55 +0100, Uwe Hercksen
<hercksen(a)mew.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:

>
>
>Jim Thompson schrieb:
>
>> Uninformed leftist loon.
>
>Hello,
>
>are you able to proof the "uninformed" in any way?
>
>Bye

If glaciers can go away in a certain time frame, doesn't it make sense
that they could return in the same time frame?

Are you trying to be Slowman's replacement.

You will be trivial to take care of ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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