From: John Larkin on 3 Nov 2009 10:04 On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:23:31 +0000, Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:22:31 +0000, ChrisQ <meru(a)devnull.com> wrote: >> >>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>> >>>> Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective ;-) >>>> >>> My sentiment as well, but someone has to run run the country and try to >>> balance the budgets. It would help the west if we all stopped exporting >>> jobs to China, but you can blame global multinationals for that, who >>> have no interest other than shareholder value. >> >> No business is run as a charity. All businesses do what they have to >> do to compete and survive. And shareholders hire boards and executives >> exactly to maximize the value of their stocks; wouldn't you? So, given > >It depends on whether they maximise the long term value of their stocks >by genuine management skill and organic growth or talk the price up with >a well constructed pack of lies and then dump the stock at peak market >leaving real long term investors to carry the can. The dot.com boom was >a pretty good example of that scam. Most of the dot.commers were sincere in expecting success. If you don't like the risk of new-idea stocks, don't buy them. > >> all that, tax policy should be structured to do the most good, which >> includes creating jobs so that people have earnings so that they can >> pay taxes. > >No disagreement there. And simpler tax systems are better - but you do >have to do something smart to make sure that working harder always >creates a monotonically improving situation for most people. > >> We all want free market >>> economics, but business is now too powerfull for the good of nations. >> >> Business is 100% of all economies. Business has to be powerful because >> it creates wealth and stuff. As long as businesses compete, the more >> powerful the business side of the economy, the better off everybody >> is. The miserable nations suffer from too little business, not too >> much. > >Remind me how it was that we ended up having to bail out banks with vast >amounts of taxpayers money? Heads we win - tails you lose casino banking. Thank Bill Clinton and Barney Frank for that. > >The increasing volume of high frequency trades looks like it will be the >next variant on the theme of too big to fail high loss city trading >MFUs. Around 70% of US stock transactions are now high speed programmed >trades parasitic on the businesses they purport to be dealing in. UK >experts are worried that the trend will totally destabilise the markets. > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8338045.stm > >They have found a new high stakes pass the parcel gambling game. A little damping wouldn't hurt the system, like a 0.2% tax on all stock trades, or a bigger tax on short-term trades. John
From: Jim Thompson on 3 Nov 2009 10:38 On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:05:16 -0600, krw <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:03:21 -0800, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian ><freedom_guy(a)example.net> wrote: > >>On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:22:31 +0000, ChrisQ wrote: >>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>> >>>> Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective ;-) >>>> >>> My sentiment as well, but someone has to run run the country and try to >>> balance the budgets. >> >>Then elect representatives who are neither polticians nor bureaucrats. >> >>Cut federal spending to zero. Require every household to own at least one >>firearm, having at least one trained operator. >> >>Remember, it's not as important to know _how_ to shoot, as it is to know >>_whom_ to shoot, _when_ to shoot, and possibly most importantly, _why_ to >>shoot. > >We already got the "why" part down pat. The "whom" is pretty clear >too. "When"? Pretty clear that Rich "the Whatever" would be a target as well ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Obama says, "I AM NOT a cry baby, Fox REALLY IS out to get me!"
From: ChrisQ on 3 Nov 2009 13:27 dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > He sounds frightened & lost. He's way over his head, and knows it. > And he has a horrible feeling that things aren't going well. > > Not good for the rest of the world then, the us sneezes and the rest catch a cold :-(. Doesn't seem to have Kennedy or Clinton balls, but time will tell... Regards, Chris
From: Jim Thompson on 3 Nov 2009 13:42 On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:27:15 +0000, ChrisQ <meru(a)devnull.com> wrote: >dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> >> He sounds frightened & lost. He's way over his head, and knows it. >> And he has a horrible feeling that things aren't going well. >> >> > >Not good for the rest of the world then, the us sneezes and the rest >catch a cold :-(. > >Doesn't seem to have Kennedy or Clinton balls, but time will tell... > >Regards, > >Chris Michelle has the balls, Barack has the whine ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Obama says, "I AM NOT a cry baby, Fox REALLY IS out to get me!"
From: Michael A. Terrell on 3 Nov 2009 17:43
Jim Thompson wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:27:15 +0000, ChrisQ <meru(a)devnull.com> wrote: > > >dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: > >> > >> He sounds frightened & lost. He's way over his head, and knows it. > >> And he has a horrible feeling that things aren't going well. > >> > >> > > > >Not good for the rest of the world then, the us sneezes and the rest > >catch a cold :-(. > > > >Doesn't seem to have Kennedy or Clinton balls, but time will tell... > > > >Regards, > > > >Chris > > Michelle has the balls, Barack has the whine ;-) http://www.buzzfeed.com/lindseyweber/rupaul-as-michelle-and-barack-obama-ru -- The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary! |