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From: krw on 31 Oct 2009 19:16 On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:01:32 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >wrote: > >>Spehro Pefhany wrote: >>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:44:21 -0700, the renowned Joerg >>> <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:03:05 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> krw wrote: >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>>>> Most use heat pumps year round here. We haven't had the house open >>>>>>> more than a few days so far this fall. It was quite warm late this >>>>>>> fall and it's been raining since. Last year was beautiful this time >>>>>>> of year. This year, not so much. >>>>>> Heat pumps are a no-no for us. PG&E has the monopoly and once you get >>>>>> above baseline (with a heat pump you will) they really sock it to you. >>>>> Only in California (so far) does more consumption increase the _rate_. >>>>> >>>> It really puts a crimp in some smaller businesses. But these days I do >>>> not expect the rulemakers to understand that they are actually making >>>> tax revenues shrink with such "measures". >>> >>> They's watermelons... green on the outside and red on the inside. 8-( >>> >> >>Only remedy is "starve the beast". That's what California voters have >>made abundantly clear, no new taxes blessed by them. Except for school >>bonds but that's because the 2/3rds majority for those has been diluted >>down to 55% and there just enough leftists to pass those. > >The only way to "starve the beast" is New York style... move out of >the state. BTDT. ;-)
From: Joerg on 31 Oct 2009 20:08 John Larkin wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:48:21 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com > wrote: > [...] >> Jobs? The current health care bill penalizes employers who don't >> provide government-approved health care. So, when you make it a >> greater and greater pain to employ people, the easy, obvious, and only >> solution is to outsource, to export jobs, to hire fewer workers. So >> of course there'll be fewer jobs. I, personally, will create fewer >> jobs. I guarantee it. > > I'll probably hold the line at about 20 employees and do more > outsourcing and contracting. ... When they go through with the net receipts tax thing in CA where salaries are supposedly non-deductible the others will do exactly the same. AFAIK consultant/contractor bills will be deductible. Of course then they'll sock us with that source tax at the receiving end. At any rate, the unemplyment rate will show a huge jolt. Upwards. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: dagmargoodboat on 1 Nov 2009 01:12 On Oct 31, 4:12 pm, John Larkin wrote: > dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > >Jobs? The current health care bill penalizes employers who don't > >provide government-approved health care. So, when you make it a > >greater and greater pain to employ people, the easy, obvious, and only > >solution is to outsource, to export jobs, to hire fewer workers. So > >of course there'll be fewer jobs. I, personally, will create fewer > >jobs. I guarantee it. > > I'll probably hold the line at about 20 employees and do more > outsourcing and contracting. The US and California have made jobs too > expensive and too much hassle. This will, paradoxically, increase the > spread between the rich and the poor. > > Are these people stupid or evil? Probably both. > > John I haven't really thought about the administration in those terms--I s'pose I can point to a few of each. For example, Pelosi is dim, believes in lollipops, that her opponents are evil, and is willing to crush them, by hook, or crook. Did she believe the things she told us about the new health care bill she introduced on Thursday? By her facial expressions and tone, no, she doesn't. My own version of Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." But there's a second part, a caveat: "Don't be a fool--malice exists." -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: dagmargoodboat on 1 Nov 2009 01:18 On Oct 31, 6:16 pm, krw wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: > >On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:01:32 -0700, Joerg wrote: > > >>Spehro Pefhany wrote: > >>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:44:21 -0700, the renowned Joerg wrote: > > >>>> Jim Thompson wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:03:05 -0700, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> krw wrote: > >>>> [...] > > >>>>>>> Most use heat pumps year round here. We haven't had the house open > >>>>>>> more than a few days so far this fall. It was quite warm late this > >>>>>>> fall and it's been raining since. Last year was beautiful this time > >>>>>>> of year. This year, not so much. > >>>>>> Heat pumps are a no-no for us. PG&E has the monopoly and once you get > >>>>>> above baseline (with a heat pump you will) they really sock it to you. > >>>>> Only in California (so far) does more consumption increase the _rate_. > > >>>> It really puts a crimp in some smaller businesses. But these days I do > >>>> not expect the rulemakers to understand that they are actually making > >>>> tax revenues shrink with such "measures". > > >>> They's watermelons... green on the outside and red on the inside. 8-( > > >>Only remedy is "starve the beast". That's what California voters have > >>made abundantly clear, no new taxes blessed by them. Except for school > >>bonds but that's because the 2/3rds majority for those has been diluted > >>down to 55% and there just enough leftists to pass those. > > >The only way to "starve the beast" is New York style... move out of > >the state. > > BTDT. ;-) http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/tax_refugees_staging_escape_from_qb4pItQ71UXIc0i6cd3UpK -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: John Larkin on 1 Nov 2009 12:38
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:18:01 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >On Oct 31, 6:16 pm, krw wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:34:23 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: >> >On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:01:32 -0700, Joerg wrote: >> >> >>Spehro Pefhany wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:44:21 -0700, the renowned Joerg wrote: >> >> >>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >> >>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:03:05 -0700, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> krw wrote: >> >>>> [...] >> >> >>>>>>> Most use heat pumps year round here. We haven't had the house open >> >>>>>>> more than a few days so far this fall. It was quite warm late this >> >>>>>>> fall and it's been raining since. Last year was beautiful this time >> >>>>>>> of year. This year, not so much. >> >>>>>> Heat pumps are a no-no for us. PG&E has the monopoly and once you get >> >>>>>> above baseline (with a heat pump you will) they really sock it to you. >> >>>>> Only in California (so far) does more consumption increase the _rate_. >> >> >>>> It really puts a crimp in some smaller businesses. But these days I do >> >>>> not expect the rulemakers to understand that they are actually making >> >>>> tax revenues shrink with such "measures". >> >> >>> They's watermelons... green on the outside and red on the inside. 8-( >> >> >>Only remedy is "starve the beast". That's what California voters have >> >>made abundantly clear, no new taxes blessed by them. Except for school >> >>bonds but that's because the 2/3rds majority for those has been diluted >> >>down to 55% and there just enough leftists to pass those. >> >> >The only way to "starve the beast" is New York style... move out of >> >the state. >> >> BTDT. ;-) > >http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/tax_refugees_staging_escape_from_qb4pItQ71UXIc0i6cd3UpK I bet the thing they can't stand is having other states compete with them, places like Texas and Nevada that are more wealth-friendly. I predict there will be action to reduce that, like more Federal taxes and more grants to states. That will, of course, drive the wealth out of the country. People who hate wealth wind up having none. John |