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From: Jim Thompson on 2 Nov 2009 16:35 On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:34:00 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:39:02 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >wrote: > >>John Larkin wrote: >>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:08:32 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:48:21 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>>> Jobs? The current health care bill penalizes employers who don't >>>>>> provide government-approved health care. So, when you make it a >>>>>> greater and greater pain to employ people, the easy, obvious, and only >>>>>> solution is to outsource, to export jobs, to hire fewer workers. So >>>>>> of course there'll be fewer jobs. I, personally, will create fewer >>>>>> jobs. I guarantee it. >>>>> I'll probably hold the line at about 20 employees and do more >>>>> outsourcing and contracting. ... >>>> >>>> When they go through with the net receipts tax thing in CA where >>>> salaries are supposedly non-deductible the others will do exactly the >>>> same. >>> >>> There are idiots claiming that a 5% net receipts tax is no more >>> burdensome than a 10% tax on profits. 5 is smaller than 10, don't you >>> see? >>> >> >>Sad :-( >> >>Just imagine what that would do to the restaurant business alone. As it >>is right now I am not sure that our Japanese and Thai places around here >>will make it. That source tax would potentially push a lot of those over >>the cliff. > >For a restaurant, it's just sales tax; they charge about 8% around >here already. All restaurants pay it, and people don't order meals >from Oregon, so it's not a competitive issue as much as it just makes >people dine out a little less. > >I suppose some people on the Nevada border cross the line to eat, or >order pizza from over the line. > >But for companies that sell stuff, and have out-of-state competition, >a gross receipts tax could really hurt. It's a job killer. We pay >about 10% tax on a profit of 5%. A 5% gross receipts tax would be a >10x increase. > >I do like the idea of taxing services as well as stuff, since more and >more of our economy is services, and the competition for services is >mostly local. Just adding the existing sales tax to services would >help the state deficit problem a lot. > >John > Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Obama says, "I am NOT a cry baby, Fox REALLY IS out to get me!"
From: ChrisQ on 2 Nov 2009 17:22 Jim Thompson wrote: >> > > Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective ;-) > My sentiment as well, but someone has to run run the country and try to balance the budgets. It would help the west if we all stopped exporting jobs to China, but you can blame global multinationals for that, who have no interest other than shareholder value. We all want free market economics, but business is now too powerfull for the good of nations. Finding the right balance is not a job I would want. But heck, what would I know, being in europe ?... Regards, Chris
From: dagmargoodboat on 2 Nov 2009 17:23 krw wrote: > James Arthur wrote: > >On Oct 31, 4:12 pm, John Larkin wrote: > >> Are these people stupid or evil? Probably both. > > >I haven't really thought about the administration in those terms--I > >s'pose I can point to a few of each. > > >For example, Pelosi is dim, believes in lollipops, that her opponents > >are evil, and is willing to crush them, by hook, or crook. Did she > >believe the things she told us about the new health care bill she > >introduced on Thursday? By her facial expressions and tone, no, she > >doesn't. > > Pelosi has facial expressions? She likely does think the lollipops > are good, _for_her_. She comes from a nutty enough constituency that > she's untouchable. Her platinum plated health care won't be affected, > or taxed. She's the ruling class so death boards won't matter. That's > little people stuff. > > >My own version of Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that > >which can be explained by incompetence." > >But there's a second part, a caveat: "Don't be a fool--malice exists." > > Certainly it does. Now convince Obama of that (and that we aren't > it). John's stupid-or-evil question's been nagging me. Well, I took extensive inventory of the happenings and figured "incompetence" explains most of it--foolish wrong beliefs, accepted uncritically, and never checked. Like Pelosi's allegedly immoral insurance company profits, Obama's $50k unnecessary amputations, green jobs, broken window fallacy ($-for-clunkers), etc. But, the House 10/29/09 health care bill? Sec. 2531(a)(4), under "Incentive Payments For Medical Liability Reform," says states get unspecified incentive payments toward health care for passing tort reform laws, provided that: "(B) the law does not limit attorneysÂ’ fees or impose caps on damages." That's malice. Oh, and ACORN's re-funded. That's malice too. -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: ChrisQ on 2 Nov 2009 17:26 Fred Abse wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:05:33 +0000, ChrisQ wrote: > >> Joerg wrote: >> >> >>> Doesn't allow any serious zoom levels but it sure looks lonesome out >>> there. The question is, just like it always was in Ireland: How far is >>> it from there to the next pub? Is there at least one in Bixter? >>> >>> >> Not sure about a pub, but there was at least a general store and post >> office at Bixter. iirc, you pass it every time you drive into Lerwick, >> which is the only place on the island you could consider a real town. >> Historically, Shetland (Zetland) was not part of the uk mainland and was >> more viking territory, hence the Old Norse names everywhere. For this and >> other reasons, you should never call a Shetlander "Scottish" :-). >> >> It is pretty desolate out there though. The only thing you hear when you >> wake up in the morning is the wind and the sheep, though it can be very >> silent as well. Great place to be if you are into stuff like meditation. >> Ken eventually had a house built at Bridge of Walls, where he still is >> with family, but have never seen it and haven't been back there since >> 1975... >> >> Regards, >> >> Chris > > It's just something I spotted while searching for your original > coordinates. > > Try: > > http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=60.2631,-1.407736&spn=0.1,0.1&t=m&q=60.2631,-1.407736 > > Yeah, I saw that posted to Joerg. Very clever, just like the schoolboys that look for all the interesting words in the dictionary. What else have you found ?... Regards, Chris
From: Jim Thompson on 2 Nov 2009 17:28
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:22:31 +0000, ChrisQ <meru(a)devnull.com> wrote: >Jim Thompson wrote: > >>> >> >> Shooting politicians and bureaucrats would be more effective ;-) >> > >My sentiment as well, but someone has to run run the country and try to >balance the budgets. It would help the west if we all stopped exporting >jobs to China, but you can blame global multinationals for that, who >have no interest other than shareholder value. We all want free market >economics, but business is now too powerfull for the good of nations. >Finding the right balance is not a job I would want. > >But heck, what would I know, being in europe ?... > >Regards, > >Chris ALL of my current business is in the South Pacific.. My main concern now is how to shelter that income from Obamanation taxation. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Obama says, "I AM NOT a cry baby, Fox REALLY IS out to get me!" |