From: Paul Sture on 11 Jul 2010 10:01 In article <i134iv$pcs$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > On 07-07-2010 19:47, dorayme wrote: > > Yes, it is a nuisance when you want to rush out, the command will > > not be carried out but impertinently questioned! There might be a > > way to script for save all open docs and shut all apps and ignore > > warnings but I doubt it? > > What irritates me is that the "logout after ___ minutes idle" is > completely useless. The kids constantly (and me occasionally) get > busy with something else and the machine will alternate between > > - do you want to close all applications and log out? > - the application ____ canceled logout Holding down alt when you click on either Logout or Shutdown eliminates that timer. If you use X11: For OS X 10.4 and early 10.5 versions: defaults write com.apple.x11 no_quit_alert -boolean true For later versions of OS X 10.5: defaults write org.x.X11 no_quit_alert true -- Paul Sture
From: Jolly Roger on 11 Jul 2010 12:52 In article <michelle-7D533D.09015211072010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-delegated.e xample.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-1E59FE.08432911072010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > Anyway, if this is the case, Option-Restart is not a solution for the > > OP, since the OP specifically mentioned wanting to avoid the "save > > before closing" dialog boxes! > > Control-Command-Eject According to Apple, Control-Command-Eject quits all applications (after giving you a chance to save changes to open documents), then restarts the computer. So this also is not what the OP wants. <http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1343> -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 11 Jul 2010 13:04 In article <75406cd3-2115-4726-82c3-b9588185c91e(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, laredotornado <laredotornado(a)zipmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using Mac 10.6.3. When I want to shut down or restart, it takes a > while because I have to answer questions from most of my applications > like "Do you really want to close?" or "Save your work before > closing?". Is there a way that I can restart without manually having > to specify that I don't want to save anything and always affirming > that, yes, I really want to close this application? > > Thanks, - Dave It just occurred to me that back in classic Mac OS, there were several extensions that allowed you to instruct the computer to automatically click the default button in dialogs that popped up. Here are the names of some of them: Snap To Alert Init Kensington Mouseworks USB Overdrive The last of them, USB Overdrive, is available in Mac OS X. You might want to check to see if that feature made it into the Mac OS X version of USB Overdrive. If so, you might be able to use it to automatically dismiss such dialogs. Another option might be to use a macro / automation utility such as QuicKeys to initiate a restart and dismiss any dialog boxes that appear. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Wes Groleau on 11 Jul 2010 15:59 On 07-11-2010 10:01, Paul Sture wrote: > Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: >> What irritates me is that the "logout after ___ minutes idle" is >> completely useless. The kids constantly (and me occasionally) get >> busy with something else and the machine will alternate between >> >> - do you want to close all applications and log out? >> - the application ____ canceled logout > > Holding down alt when you click on either Logout or Shutdown eliminates > that timer. > > If you use X11: > > For OS X 10.4 and early 10.5 versions: > > defaults write com.apple.x11 no_quit_alert -boolean true > > For later versions of OS X 10.5: > > defaults write org.x.X11 no_quit_alert true I am on 10.6 now. I'm quite confused about whether we're even talking about the same thing. I don't want to eliminate the timer. I want the system to honor my wishes and log out when the timer expires. A timer to trigger a logout when no one is at the computer is STUPID if somebody has to be at the computer to click a bunch of are-you-sure buttons. And are you sure setting an X11 property is going to fix a problem that occurs whether or not X11 is even installed? Still, I might try setting those to see what happens. -- Wes Groleau ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ A UNIX signature isn't a return address, it's the ASCII equivalent ^ ^ of a black velvet clown painting. It's a rectangle of carets ^ ^ surrounding a quote from a literary giant of weeniedom like ^ ^ Heinlein or Dr. Who. ^ ^ -- Chris Maeda ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: Wes Groleau on 11 Jul 2010 16:42
On 07-11-2010 16:23, Michelle Steiner wrote: > The alternative to not having to answer those are-you-sure questions is to > lose the unsaved work in "dirty" documents. Which is _exactly_ what I want. If my son decides that what I've taught him about saving his work, and not leaving stuff on the screen without a screen lock, and logging out when he's done, then I WANT him to lose his changes. He made a choice, and I want him to actually receive what he chose. I understand the reason for those pop-ups, but in my opinion that reason IS NOT VALID when no one has touched mouse or keyboard for sixty minutes. Seriously, the way the system works is such that checking that button means “if the logged in user does nothing for sixty minutes but is still sitting there with eyes open and aimed at the screen, then try to persuade them to save their work and log out.” But that ISN'T what the label says. It says “Log out after sixty minutes of inactivity.” And it is in the SECURITY preferences. When I check an option, it's because I want what the option promises. My beef is that I'm not getting it. -- Wes Groleau New numbers for next year http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1495 |