From: dorayme on
In article
<michelle-7D533D.09015211072010(a)reserved-multicast-range-not-dele
gated.example.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-1E59FE.08432911072010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyway, if this is the case, Option-Restart is not a solution for the
> > OP, since the OP specifically mentioned wanting to avoid the "save
> > before closing" dialog boxes!
>
Exactly.

He takes the O_R advice, trusts it, uses and flies off overseas.
In the meantime the machine does not shut down, it is still
running, asking damn fool questions. He is arrested in Asia on
some mistaken drug charge and is thrown into a prison for 15
years with rats and dysentery and AIDS all around. The Mac is
still asking the same question till the poor disk wears out and
he loses the information on it, part of which would exonerate him
and prove at least to his family his innocence and general
goodness...

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dorayme
From: Jolly Roger on
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <jollyroger-984439.11520611072010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>> Control-Command-Eject
>>
>> According to Apple, Control-Command-Eject quits all applications
> > (after
>> giving you a chance to save changes to open documents), then restarts
> >
>> the computer. So this also is not what the OP wants.
>>
>> <http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1343>
>
> when I tried it, before posting that reply, it did not offer me the
> option
> of saving changes in MTNW.

I have never had MTNW ask to save changes on quit. It's up to each
individual application to prompt the user to save unsaved changes on
quit.

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From: Wes Groleau on
On 07-11-2010 18:10, dorayme wrote:
> years with rats and dysentery and AIDS all around. The Mac is
> still asking the same question till the poor disk wears out and

Wouldn't the power provider turn of the mains long before that?
:-)

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Wes Groleau

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From: dorayme on
In article <i1dvc3$6kr$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 07-11-2010 18:10, dorayme wrote:
> > years with rats and dysentery and AIDS all around. The Mac is
> > still asking the same question till the poor disk wears out and
>
> Wouldn't the power provider turn of the mains long before that?
> :-)

No, you see that is the problem, everywhere you turn, it is all
organised against you. Power bills are significant but not so
onerous that they would drain a reasonable person's credit or
debit card that has funds and has been registered with the power
company, the chap would have turned everything off except for the
Mac and expecting that to take no power. But it would have taken
*a bit* for a long time... I am telling you Wes, managing a Mac
is no trivial business, it is full of adventure and DANGER.

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dorayme
From: Paul Sture on
In article <i1d7qs$c52$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 07-11-2010 10:01, Paul Sture wrote:
> > Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >> What irritates me is that the "logout after ___ minutes idle" is
> >> completely useless. The kids constantly (and me occasionally) get
> >> busy with something else and the machine will alternate between
> >>
> >> - do you want to close all applications and log out?
> >> - the application ____ canceled logout
> >
> > Holding down alt when you click on either Logout or Shutdown eliminates
> > that timer.
> >
> > If you use X11:
> >
> > For OS X 10.4 and early 10.5 versions:
> >
> > defaults write com.apple.x11 no_quit_alert -boolean true
> >
> > For later versions of OS X 10.5:
> >
> > defaults write org.x.X11 no_quit_alert true
>
> I am on 10.6 now. I�m quite confused about whether we�re even talking
> about the same thing. I don�t want to eliminate the timer. I want the
> system to honor my wishes and log out when the timer expires. A timer
> to trigger a logout when no one is at the computer is STUPID if somebody
> has to be at the computer to click a bunch of are-you-sure buttons.

One of the reasons I prefer not to use the timer is that you see those
are-you-sure buttons _before_ you get up to make a coffee. If I'm not
going to leave my desk during a reboot, the time is just a waste of my
time.

> And are you sure setting an X11 property is going to fix a problem that
> occurs whether or not X11 is even installed?

I did say "If you use X11". That one certainly drove me nuts, for it
asked are-you-sure even when no X11 apps were running. I do make sure
any X11 apps are closed properly before doing a shutdown.

> Still, I might try setting those to see what happens.

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Paul Sture