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From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 24 May 2010 08:15 Did you set the port to 120? Port 119 gets you the other NGs, I think. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7A688AAD-04B7-4E83-87EE-4327DB98F56A(a)microsoft.com... > Yes, Microsoft Answers NNTP bridge V1.zip > > I ran the setup.exe and logged in. I then downloaded all newsgroups (and > descriptions) but the forums you mention are not among them. > > "Graham Mayor" <gmayor(a)REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message > news:#05g8#y#KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Did you download the right bridge? There are two. The one you want is >> version 1.0 for Answers and which was the one I linked in my earlier >> message. In the list of newsgroups on that bridge you will find the three >> forums that you mention. i.e. >> >> Answers.en-US.wordcreate >> Answers.en-US.wordgraphic >> Answers.en-US.wordshare >> plus >> Answers.en-US.officeprog >> >> -- >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >> >> My web site www.gmayor.com >> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >> >> >> "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:171A3CC0-919A-4D95-8EB4-AF44085D73B1(a)microsoft.com... >>> OK thanks, I have that set up now. >>> >>> I have added the Answers in my Windows Live Mail Newsgroups as per >>> Suzanne's instructions. >>> >>> I can get a list of newsgroups but there is no mention of the ones I >>> have added online in My Forums, i.e. the Word forums, in the list. The >>> only one shown in English is for IT developers, not .wordcreate, >>> .wordgraphic, and .wordshare. >>> >>> I have Use NNTP Bridge checked in my forum preferences. >>> >>> Can you help, please? >>> >>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor(a)REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message >>> news:#Gxmgex#KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Click on Download Single file and the zip file will download without >>>> using the file transfer manager. >>>> >>>> https://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/Downloads/DownloadDetails.aspx?DownloadID=28994 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >>>> >>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:062813BB-BBF3-49A9-83D4-3D01A8523C8B(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>I have tried to download the bridge but although the download page >>>>>shows a zip file, I only get 'download.dlm' which will not open! (I am >>>>>not clicking on the 'download single file'). >>>>> >>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>> news:eGPZ4Fr#KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Okay, let's take a step back here. These newsgroups will be shut down >>>>>> as of June 1 in the sense that Microsoft will close the Communities >>>>>> Web site and shut down the msnews server. If you're accessing the NGs >>>>>> via WLM, then you're getting them from msnews. You won't be able to >>>>>> do that any more, but there's a good chance that they will survive, >>>>>> at least for a time, on other news servers. If you have access to >>>>>> another news server (Eternal September is one that has been mentioned >>>>>> a lot), then you can continue to receive them, but you'll need to set >>>>>> up a new WLM account for that server. I haven't yet gotten around to >>>>>> doing this myself, so I can't tell you much more than that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, as for the Answers forums, you can, as it were, "try before you >>>>>> buy." You can view the Word forums at >>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword >>>>>> (or start at http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx to view >>>>>> all the Answers forums). You do not need to sign in just to read >>>>>> questions and answers, only to post. And yes, if you already have a >>>>>> Windows LiveID, you can use it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, the bridge. The bridge is a very small software add-in that >>>>>> allows you to access these Web forums with your newsreader (WLM in >>>>>> this case). Once you have it installed and running, you create a WLM >>>>>> news account for Answers, and you can access the forums just as if >>>>>> they were Usenet NGs (well, almost, anyway). If you go to >>>>>> https://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/?wa=wsignin1.0 and >>>>>> scroll to the bottom of the page, you will see links to FAQs, >>>>>> instructions for downloading and installing the bridge, etc. But >>>>>> here, in a nutshell, is what happens: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. You sign in and download the bridge, then install it. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. You create a new news account in WLM giving 127.0.0.1 as the >>>>>> server address. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. After "finishing" the account creation, you can go back to the >>>>>> account Properties and change the name of the account to "Microsoft >>>>>> Answers" (or anything else you like), fill in missing data, such as >>>>>> your Reply To address, and change the port from the default 119 to >>>>>> 120. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Installing the bridge adds a Start menu shortcut under Microsoft >>>>>> Community Tools. You may want to pin the shortcut to the Start menu >>>>>> or Taskbar because you have to start the bridge each time you restart >>>>>> Windows (for me, this is once a day). >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. The first time you start the bridge, you will be asked for your >>>>>> Windows LiveID and password (if the installation failed to pick this >>>>>> up, as it did when I installed on Windows 7 today, though it seems to >>>>>> me that on my Windows XP system it was retained). Tell Windows to >>>>>> remember it, and you're good to go. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. Every time you start the bridge, a window will pop up with a Start >>>>>> button. When you click Start, you are logged into Answers. There's >>>>>> also a Stop button, but I can't imagine why you'd want to use it. The >>>>>> nice thing is that when you minimize this window, it automatically >>>>>> minimizes to the Systray instead of the Taskbar, so it's very >>>>>> unobtrusive. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once you've started the bridge, you use the Answers news account just >>>>>> like any other; downloading and posting work just the same. And you >>>>>> don't have to worry too much about posting in the wrong NG, as there >>>>>> are only three for Word: .wordcreate, .wordgraphic, and .wordshare. >>>>>> You may want to note their descriptions at >>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword, >>>>>> but of course there's a good bit of overlap, anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>> >>>>>> "bj" <bjones44(a)bellatlantic.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eW25Lyq%23KHA.3704(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >>>>>>> message >>>>>>> news:e87Gogq#KHA.5044(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> First you will have to register a Live ID at the Answers forum: >>>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword. >>>>>>>> Click the "Sign in" link and if you don't already have a Live ID, >>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>> register. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can then use the web interface to ask questions in the >>>>>>>> appropriate >>>>>>>> forum, or >>>>>>>> you can download and install the Microsoft Answers Bridge from >>>>>>>> http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ which allows you to >>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>> using your newsreader. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't dared try any of this bridge stuff yet & don't understand >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> I'm leery of installing it before I know what it *is* or how it will >>>>>>> mess up >>>>>>> my system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you need a LiveID to get the bridge thing? >>>>>>> What *is* the bridge -- s/w, website, or what?? >>>>>>> Is it a sort of "usenet simulator" that's really a web page? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this the same LiveID we may already have, though not used? I got >>>>>>> it when >>>>>>> I thought it was *required* for WLM -- they weren't exactly clear >>>>>>> about this >>>>>>> part, though I did -- after an uninstall & re-install -- manage to >>>>>>> avoid >>>>>>> getting *everything*. And there are still some email addresses they >>>>>>> won't >>>>>>> let you use to sign up, though apparently mine is no longer among >>>>>>> them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will we have to sign in with the LiveID to d/l messages? or just to >>>>>>> d/l the >>>>>>> bridge s/w (or whatevr it is)? or what? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm already afraid of asking the wrong question in the wrong group; >>>>>>> doing it >>>>>>> via klunky-web-forum would just make it worse, as it's much harder >>>>>>> to browse >>>>>>> around first to see if you're even in the right place, or maybe even >>>>>>> if your >>>>>>> problem has already been asked & answered (asking again due to >>>>>>> inadequate >>>>>>> old-thread-browsing is akin to a capital offence, it seems.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should I be asking this in another group? If so, please advise >>>>>>> *which* & >>>>>>> I'll move. >>>>>>> bj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>
From: abrielle on 24 May 2010 10:30 I set it to 120 and got 'unable to connect to server'. I tried it again later and managed to download the Answers groups BUT Oh my goodness - what a jumble! The public.word groups were organised into specific areas. I really need to find another server as I am sure I shall never have the time to read all these! Thanks for your help everyone. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message news:u59ebtz#KHA.3972(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Did you set the port to 120? Port 119 gets you the other NGs, I think. > > -- > Suzanne S. Barnhill > Microsoft MVP (Word) > Words into Type > Fairhope, Alabama USA > http://word.mvps.org > > "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:7A688AAD-04B7-4E83-87EE-4327DB98F56A(a)microsoft.com... >> Yes, Microsoft Answers NNTP bridge V1.zip >> >> I ran the setup.exe and logged in. I then downloaded all newsgroups (and >> descriptions) but the forums you mention are not among them. >> >> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor(a)REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message >> news:#05g8#y#KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Did you download the right bridge? There are two. The one you want is >>> version 1.0 for Answers and which was the one I linked in my earlier >>> message. In the list of newsgroups on that bridge you will find the >>> three forums that you mention. i.e. >>> >>> Answers.en-US.wordcreate >>> Answers.en-US.wordgraphic >>> Answers.en-US.wordshare >>> plus >>> Answers.en-US.officeprog >>> >>> -- >>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >>> >>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>> >>> >>> "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:171A3CC0-919A-4D95-8EB4-AF44085D73B1(a)microsoft.com... >>>> OK thanks, I have that set up now. >>>> >>>> I have added the Answers in my Windows Live Mail Newsgroups as per >>>> Suzanne's instructions. >>>> >>>> I can get a list of newsgroups but there is no mention of the ones I >>>> have added online in My Forums, i.e. the Word forums, in the list. The >>>> only one shown in English is for IT developers, not .wordcreate, >>>> .wordgraphic, and .wordshare. >>>> >>>> I have Use NNTP Bridge checked in my forum preferences. >>>> >>>> Can you help, please? >>>> >>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor(a)REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message >>>> news:#Gxmgex#KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> Click on Download Single file and the zip file will download without >>>>> using the file transfer manager. >>>>> >>>>> https://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/Downloads/DownloadDetails.aspx?DownloadID=28994 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >>>>> >>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:062813BB-BBF3-49A9-83D4-3D01A8523C8B(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>I have tried to download the bridge but although the download page >>>>>>shows a zip file, I only get 'download.dlm' which will not open! (I am >>>>>>not clicking on the 'download single file'). >>>>>> >>>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eGPZ4Fr#KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Okay, let's take a step back here. These newsgroups will be shut >>>>>>> down as of June 1 in the sense that Microsoft will close the >>>>>>> Communities Web site and shut down the msnews server. If you're >>>>>>> accessing the NGs via WLM, then you're getting them from msnews. You >>>>>>> won't be able to do that any more, but there's a good chance that >>>>>>> they will survive, at least for a time, on other news servers. If >>>>>>> you have access to another news server (Eternal September is one >>>>>>> that has been mentioned a lot), then you can continue to receive >>>>>>> them, but you'll need to set up a new WLM account for that server. I >>>>>>> haven't yet gotten around to doing this myself, so I can't tell you >>>>>>> much more than that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, as for the Answers forums, you can, as it were, "try before you >>>>>>> buy." You can view the Word forums at >>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword >>>>>>> (or start at http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx to view >>>>>>> all the Answers forums). You do not need to sign in just to read >>>>>>> questions and answers, only to post. And yes, if you already have a >>>>>>> Windows LiveID, you can use it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, the bridge. The bridge is a very small software add-in that >>>>>>> allows you to access these Web forums with your newsreader (WLM in >>>>>>> this case). Once you have it installed and running, you create a WLM >>>>>>> news account for Answers, and you can access the forums just as if >>>>>>> they were Usenet NGs (well, almost, anyway). If you go to >>>>>>> https://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/?wa=wsignin1.0 and >>>>>>> scroll to the bottom of the page, you will see links to FAQs, >>>>>>> instructions for downloading and installing the bridge, etc. But >>>>>>> here, in a nutshell, is what happens: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. You sign in and download the bridge, then install it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. You create a new news account in WLM giving 127.0.0.1 as the >>>>>>> server address. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. After "finishing" the account creation, you can go back to the >>>>>>> account Properties and change the name of the account to "Microsoft >>>>>>> Answers" (or anything else you like), fill in missing data, such as >>>>>>> your Reply To address, and change the port from the default 119 to >>>>>>> 120. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. Installing the bridge adds a Start menu shortcut under Microsoft >>>>>>> Community Tools. You may want to pin the shortcut to the Start menu >>>>>>> or Taskbar because you have to start the bridge each time you >>>>>>> restart Windows (for me, this is once a day). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. The first time you start the bridge, you will be asked for your >>>>>>> Windows LiveID and password (if the installation failed to pick this >>>>>>> up, as it did when I installed on Windows 7 today, though it seems >>>>>>> to me that on my Windows XP system it was retained). Tell Windows to >>>>>>> remember it, and you're good to go. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. Every time you start the bridge, a window will pop up with a >>>>>>> Start button. When you click Start, you are logged into Answers. >>>>>>> There's also a Stop button, but I can't imagine why you'd want to >>>>>>> use it. The nice thing is that when you minimize this window, it >>>>>>> automatically minimizes to the Systray instead of the Taskbar, so >>>>>>> it's very unobtrusive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once you've started the bridge, you use the Answers news account >>>>>>> just like any other; downloading and posting work just the same. And >>>>>>> you don't have to worry too much about posting in the wrong NG, as >>>>>>> there are only three for Word: .wordcreate, .wordgraphic, and >>>>>>> .wordshare. You may want to note their descriptions at >>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword, >>>>>>> but of course there's a good bit of overlap, anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "bj" <bjones44(a)bellatlantic.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eW25Lyq%23KHA.3704(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>> news:e87Gogq#KHA.5044(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> First you will have to register a Live ID at the Answers forum: >>>>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword. >>>>>>>>> Click the "Sign in" link and if you don't already have a Live ID, >>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>> register. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can then use the web interface to ask questions in the >>>>>>>>> appropriate >>>>>>>>> forum, or >>>>>>>>> you can download and install the Microsoft Answers Bridge from >>>>>>>>> http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ which allows you to >>>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>> using your newsreader. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't dared try any of this bridge stuff yet & don't understand >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> I'm leery of installing it before I know what it *is* or how it >>>>>>>> will mess up >>>>>>>> my system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you need a LiveID to get the bridge thing? >>>>>>>> What *is* the bridge -- s/w, website, or what?? >>>>>>>> Is it a sort of "usenet simulator" that's really a web page? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this the same LiveID we may already have, though not used? I got >>>>>>>> it when >>>>>>>> I thought it was *required* for WLM -- they weren't exactly clear >>>>>>>> about this >>>>>>>> part, though I did -- after an uninstall & re-install -- manage to >>>>>>>> avoid >>>>>>>> getting *everything*. And there are still some email addresses they >>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>> let you use to sign up, though apparently mine is no longer among >>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will we have to sign in with the LiveID to d/l messages? or just to >>>>>>>> d/l the >>>>>>>> bridge s/w (or whatevr it is)? or what? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm already afraid of asking the wrong question in the wrong group; >>>>>>>> doing it >>>>>>>> via klunky-web-forum would just make it worse, as it's much harder >>>>>>>> to browse >>>>>>>> around first to see if you're even in the right place, or maybe >>>>>>>> even if your >>>>>>>> problem has already been asked & answered (asking again due to >>>>>>>> inadequate >>>>>>>> old-thread-browsing is akin to a capital offence, it seems.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Should I be asking this in another group? If so, please advise >>>>>>>> *which* & >>>>>>>> I'll move. >>>>>>>> bj >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 24 May 2010 11:02 What I forgot when I set it up on my laptop (after running it on my desktop for a while) was that I had to actually START the bridge after installing it. I kept getting a message suggesting that WLM couldn't connect to the server, possibly because my firewall was blocking it. Well, of course that was a red herring. Once I remembered to actually start the bridge, I had no problem. The NGs are not really that much of a jumble. Realize that you probably want to concentrate on the .en-US branch, then look for .word (or any other application you're interested in). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:e$%23io20%23KHA.3840(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I set it to 120 and got 'unable to connect to server'. I tried it again >later and managed to download the Answers groups BUT > > Oh my goodness - what a jumble! The public.word groups were organised into > specific areas. > > I really need to find another server as I am sure I shall never have the > time to read all these! > > Thanks for your help everyone. > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message > news:u59ebtz#KHA.3972(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Did you set the port to 120? Port 119 gets you the other NGs, I think. >> >> -- >> Suzanne S. Barnhill >> Microsoft MVP (Word) >> Words into Type >> Fairhope, Alabama USA >> http://word.mvps.org >> >> "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:7A688AAD-04B7-4E83-87EE-4327DB98F56A(a)microsoft.com... >>> Yes, Microsoft Answers NNTP bridge V1.zip >>> >>> I ran the setup.exe and logged in. I then downloaded all newsgroups >>> (and descriptions) but the forums you mention are not among them. >>> >>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor(a)REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message >>> news:#05g8#y#KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Did you download the right bridge? There are two. The one you want is >>>> version 1.0 for Answers and which was the one I linked in my earlier >>>> message. In the list of newsgroups on that bridge you will find the >>>> three forums that you mention. i.e. >>>> >>>> Answers.en-US.wordcreate >>>> Answers.en-US.wordgraphic >>>> Answers.en-US.wordshare >>>> plus >>>> Answers.en-US.officeprog >>>> >>>> -- >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >>>> >>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>> >>>> >>>> "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:171A3CC0-919A-4D95-8EB4-AF44085D73B1(a)microsoft.com... >>>>> OK thanks, I have that set up now. >>>>> >>>>> I have added the Answers in my Windows Live Mail Newsgroups as per >>>>> Suzanne's instructions. >>>>> >>>>> I can get a list of newsgroups but there is no mention of the ones I >>>>> have added online in My Forums, i.e. the Word forums, in the list. The >>>>> only one shown in English is for IT developers, not .wordcreate, >>>>> .wordgraphic, and .wordshare. >>>>> >>>>> I have Use NNTP Bridge checked in my forum preferences. >>>>> >>>>> Can you help, please? >>>>> >>>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor(a)REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message >>>>> news:#Gxmgex#KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Click on Download Single file and the zip file will download without >>>>>> using the file transfer manager. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/Downloads/DownloadDetails.aspx?DownloadID=28994 >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >>>>>> >>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:062813BB-BBF3-49A9-83D4-3D01A8523C8B(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>I have tried to download the bridge but although the download page >>>>>>>shows a zip file, I only get 'download.dlm' which will not open! (I >>>>>>>am not clicking on the 'download single file'). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eGPZ4Fr#KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Okay, let's take a step back here. These newsgroups will be shut >>>>>>>> down as of June 1 in the sense that Microsoft will close the >>>>>>>> Communities Web site and shut down the msnews server. If you're >>>>>>>> accessing the NGs via WLM, then you're getting them from msnews. >>>>>>>> You won't be able to do that any more, but there's a good chance >>>>>>>> that they will survive, at least for a time, on other news servers. >>>>>>>> If you have access to another news server (Eternal September is one >>>>>>>> that has been mentioned a lot), then you can continue to receive >>>>>>>> them, but you'll need to set up a new WLM account for that server. >>>>>>>> I haven't yet gotten around to doing this myself, so I can't tell >>>>>>>> you much more than that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, as for the Answers forums, you can, as it were, "try before >>>>>>>> you buy." You can view the Word forums at >>>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword >>>>>>>> (or start at http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx to >>>>>>>> view all the Answers forums). You do not need to sign in just to >>>>>>>> read questions and answers, only to post. And yes, if you already >>>>>>>> have a Windows LiveID, you can use it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, the bridge. The bridge is a very small software add-in that >>>>>>>> allows you to access these Web forums with your newsreader (WLM in >>>>>>>> this case). Once you have it installed and running, you create a >>>>>>>> WLM news account for Answers, and you can access the forums just as >>>>>>>> if they were Usenet NGs (well, almost, anyway). If you go to >>>>>>>> https://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/?wa=wsignin1.0 and >>>>>>>> scroll to the bottom of the page, you will see links to FAQs, >>>>>>>> instructions for downloading and installing the bridge, etc. But >>>>>>>> here, in a nutshell, is what happens: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. You sign in and download the bridge, then install it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. You create a new news account in WLM giving 127.0.0.1 as the >>>>>>>> server address. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. After "finishing" the account creation, you can go back to the >>>>>>>> account Properties and change the name of the account to "Microsoft >>>>>>>> Answers" (or anything else you like), fill in missing data, such as >>>>>>>> your Reply To address, and change the port from the default 119 to >>>>>>>> 120. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4. Installing the bridge adds a Start menu shortcut under Microsoft >>>>>>>> Community Tools. You may want to pin the shortcut to the Start menu >>>>>>>> or Taskbar because you have to start the bridge each time you >>>>>>>> restart Windows (for me, this is once a day). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5. The first time you start the bridge, you will be asked for your >>>>>>>> Windows LiveID and password (if the installation failed to pick >>>>>>>> this up, as it did when I installed on Windows 7 today, though it >>>>>>>> seems to me that on my Windows XP system it was retained). Tell >>>>>>>> Windows to remember it, and you're good to go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 6. Every time you start the bridge, a window will pop up with a >>>>>>>> Start button. When you click Start, you are logged into Answers. >>>>>>>> There's also a Stop button, but I can't imagine why you'd want to >>>>>>>> use it. The nice thing is that when you minimize this window, it >>>>>>>> automatically minimizes to the Systray instead of the Taskbar, so >>>>>>>> it's very unobtrusive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once you've started the bridge, you use the Answers news account >>>>>>>> just like any other; downloading and posting work just the same. >>>>>>>> And you don't have to worry too much about posting in the wrong NG, >>>>>>>> as there are only three for Word: .wordcreate, .wordgraphic, and >>>>>>>> .wordshare. You may want to note their descriptions at >>>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword, >>>>>>>> but of course there's a good bit of overlap, anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "bj" <bjones44(a)bellatlantic.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:eW25Lyq%23KHA.3704(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>> news:e87Gogq#KHA.5044(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> First you will have to register a Live ID at the Answers forum: >>>>>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword. >>>>>>>>>> Click the "Sign in" link and if you don't already have a Live ID, >>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>> register. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can then use the web interface to ask questions in the >>>>>>>>>> appropriate >>>>>>>>>> forum, or >>>>>>>>>> you can download and install the Microsoft Answers Bridge from >>>>>>>>>> http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ which allows you to >>>>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>>> using your newsreader. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I haven't dared try any of this bridge stuff yet & don't >>>>>>>>> understand it. >>>>>>>>> I'm leery of installing it before I know what it *is* or how it >>>>>>>>> will mess up >>>>>>>>> my system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you need a LiveID to get the bridge thing? >>>>>>>>> What *is* the bridge -- s/w, website, or what?? >>>>>>>>> Is it a sort of "usenet simulator" that's really a web page? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this the same LiveID we may already have, though not used? I >>>>>>>>> got it when >>>>>>>>> I thought it was *required* for WLM -- they weren't exactly clear >>>>>>>>> about this >>>>>>>>> part, though I did -- after an uninstall & re-install -- manage to >>>>>>>>> avoid >>>>>>>>> getting *everything*. And there are still some email addresses >>>>>>>>> they won't >>>>>>>>> let you use to sign up, though apparently mine is no longer among >>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will we have to sign in with the LiveID to d/l messages? or just >>>>>>>>> to d/l the >>>>>>>>> bridge s/w (or whatevr it is)? or what? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm already afraid of asking the wrong question in the wrong >>>>>>>>> group; doing it >>>>>>>>> via klunky-web-forum would just make it worse, as it's much harder >>>>>>>>> to browse >>>>>>>>> around first to see if you're even in the right place, or maybe >>>>>>>>> even if your >>>>>>>>> problem has already been asked & answered (asking again due to >>>>>>>>> inadequate >>>>>>>>> old-thread-browsing is akin to a capital offence, it seems.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Should I be asking this in another group? If so, please advise >>>>>>>>> *which* & >>>>>>>>> I'll move. >>>>>>>>> bj >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>
From: bj on 24 May 2010 11:45 Thank you for the details on the how-to. I'll print it out & grit my teeth to give it a try. I just hope I don't have too many problems with Word & Pub if/when I change to the 2010 versions, as it still doesn't look like getting help is going to be as easy as it has been. I've learned a lot of little tricks just from lurking. I'm not as "adventurous" as I used to be -- whether because things just keep getting more complicated (without always getting any better & generally not easier beyond the first few tweaks) or because I'm getting older & have more trouble adjusting. :-) bj (is MS trying to tell me to get lost?) (I already know I'm a demographic they are not interested in!) "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message news:eGPZ4Fr#KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Okay, let's take a step back here. These newsgroups will be shut down as > of June 1 in the sense that Microsoft will close the Communities Web site > and shut down the msnews server. If you're accessing the NGs via WLM, then > you're getting them from msnews. You won't be able to do that any more, > but there's a good chance that they will survive, at least for a time, on > other news servers. If you have access to another news server (Eternal > September is one that has been mentioned a lot), then you can continue to > receive them, but you'll need to set up a new WLM account for that server. > I haven't yet gotten around to doing this myself, so I can't tell you much > more than that. > ....<explanation & how-to-instructions>.... > >> >> >
From: Graham Mayor on 25 May 2010 01:12
You don't need to read all of them. You only need to read three. They are filed in order and shouldn't be too hard to find. Answers.en-US.wordcreate Answers.en-US.wordgraphic Answers.en-US.wordshare and if you are remotely interested in vba programming, though even at this lkate stage we are lobbying for a dedicated Word programming forum not lumped in with Outlook and Powerpoint etc. Answers.en-US.officeprog -- <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:e$%23io20%23KHA.3840(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I set it to 120 and got 'unable to connect to server'. I tried it again >later and managed to download the Answers groups BUT > > Oh my goodness - what a jumble! The public.word groups were organised into > specific areas. > > I really need to find another server as I am sure I shall never have the > time to read all these! > > Thanks for your help everyone. > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message > news:u59ebtz#KHA.3972(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Did you set the port to 120? Port 119 gets you the other NGs, I think. >> >> -- >> Suzanne S. Barnhill >> Microsoft MVP (Word) >> Words into Type >> Fairhope, Alabama USA >> http://word.mvps.org >> >> "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:7A688AAD-04B7-4E83-87EE-4327DB98F56A(a)microsoft.com... >>> Yes, Microsoft Answers NNTP bridge V1.zip >>> >>> I ran the setup.exe and logged in. I then downloaded all newsgroups >>> (and descriptions) but the forums you mention are not among them. >>> >>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor(a)REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message >>> news:#05g8#y#KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Did you download the right bridge? There are two. The one you want is >>>> version 1.0 for Answers and which was the one I linked in my earlier >>>> message. In the list of newsgroups on that bridge you will find the >>>> three forums that you mention. i.e. >>>> >>>> Answers.en-US.wordcreate >>>> Answers.en-US.wordgraphic >>>> Answers.en-US.wordshare >>>> plus >>>> Answers.en-US.officeprog >>>> >>>> -- >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >>>> >>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>> >>>> >>>> "abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:171A3CC0-919A-4D95-8EB4-AF44085D73B1(a)microsoft.com... >>>>> OK thanks, I have that set up now. >>>>> >>>>> I have added the Answers in my Windows Live Mail Newsgroups as per >>>>> Suzanne's instructions. >>>>> >>>>> I can get a list of newsgroups but there is no mention of the ones I >>>>> have added online in My Forums, i.e. the Word forums, in the list. The >>>>> only one shown in English is for IT developers, not .wordcreate, >>>>> .wordgraphic, and .wordshare. >>>>> >>>>> I have Use NNTP Bridge checked in my forum preferences. >>>>> >>>>> Can you help, please? >>>>> >>>>> "Graham Mayor" <gmayor(a)REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message >>>>> news:#Gxmgex#KHA.5464(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Click on Download Single file and the zip file will download without >>>>>> using the file transfer manager. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/Downloads/DownloadDetails.aspx?DownloadID=28994 >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>>> Graham Mayor - Word MVP >>>>>> >>>>>> My web site www.gmayor.com >>>>>> Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org >>>>>> <>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Abrielle" <abrielle(a)newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:062813BB-BBF3-49A9-83D4-3D01A8523C8B(a)microsoft.com... >>>>>>>I have tried to download the bridge but although the download page >>>>>>>shows a zip file, I only get 'download.dlm' which will not open! (I >>>>>>>am not clicking on the 'download single file'). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill(a)mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eGPZ4Fr#KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Okay, let's take a step back here. These newsgroups will be shut >>>>>>>> down as of June 1 in the sense that Microsoft will close the >>>>>>>> Communities Web site and shut down the msnews server. If you're >>>>>>>> accessing the NGs via WLM, then you're getting them from msnews. >>>>>>>> You won't be able to do that any more, but there's a good chance >>>>>>>> that they will survive, at least for a time, on other news servers. >>>>>>>> If you have access to another news server (Eternal September is one >>>>>>>> that has been mentioned a lot), then you can continue to receive >>>>>>>> them, but you'll need to set up a new WLM account for that server. >>>>>>>> I haven't yet gotten around to doing this myself, so I can't tell >>>>>>>> you much more than that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, as for the Answers forums, you can, as it were, "try before >>>>>>>> you buy." You can view the Word forums at >>>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword >>>>>>>> (or start at http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx to >>>>>>>> view all the Answers forums). You do not need to sign in just to >>>>>>>> read questions and answers, only to post. And yes, if you already >>>>>>>> have a Windows LiveID, you can use it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, the bridge. The bridge is a very small software add-in that >>>>>>>> allows you to access these Web forums with your newsreader (WLM in >>>>>>>> this case). Once you have it installed and running, you create a >>>>>>>> WLM news account for Answers, and you can access the forums just as >>>>>>>> if they were Usenet NGs (well, almost, anyway). If you go to >>>>>>>> https://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/?wa=wsignin1.0 and >>>>>>>> scroll to the bottom of the page, you will see links to FAQs, >>>>>>>> instructions for downloading and installing the bridge, etc. But >>>>>>>> here, in a nutshell, is what happens: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. You sign in and download the bridge, then install it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. You create a new news account in WLM giving 127.0.0.1 as the >>>>>>>> server address. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. After "finishing" the account creation, you can go back to the >>>>>>>> account Properties and change the name of the account to "Microsoft >>>>>>>> Answers" (or anything else you like), fill in missing data, such as >>>>>>>> your Reply To address, and change the port from the default 119 to >>>>>>>> 120. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4. Installing the bridge adds a Start menu shortcut under Microsoft >>>>>>>> Community Tools. You may want to pin the shortcut to the Start menu >>>>>>>> or Taskbar because you have to start the bridge each time you >>>>>>>> restart Windows (for me, this is once a day). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5. The first time you start the bridge, you will be asked for your >>>>>>>> Windows LiveID and password (if the installation failed to pick >>>>>>>> this up, as it did when I installed on Windows 7 today, though it >>>>>>>> seems to me that on my Windows XP system it was retained). Tell >>>>>>>> Windows to remember it, and you're good to go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 6. Every time you start the bridge, a window will pop up with a >>>>>>>> Start button. When you click Start, you are logged into Answers. >>>>>>>> There's also a Stop button, but I can't imagine why you'd want to >>>>>>>> use it. The nice thing is that when you minimize this window, it >>>>>>>> automatically minimizes to the Systray instead of the Taskbar, so >>>>>>>> it's very unobtrusive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once you've started the bridge, you use the Answers news account >>>>>>>> just like any other; downloading and posting work just the same. >>>>>>>> And you don't have to worry too much about posting in the wrong NG, >>>>>>>> as there are only three for Word: .wordcreate, .wordgraphic, and >>>>>>>> .wordshare. You may want to note their descriptions at >>>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword, >>>>>>>> but of course there's a good bit of overlap, anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Suzanne S. Barnhill >>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP (Word) >>>>>>>> Words into Type >>>>>>>> Fairhope, Alabama USA >>>>>>>> http://word.mvps.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "bj" <bjones44(a)bellatlantic.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:eW25Lyq%23KHA.3704(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> "Stefan Blom" <StefanBlom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>> news:e87Gogq#KHA.5044(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> First you will have to register a Live ID at the Answers forum: >>>>>>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/officeword. >>>>>>>>>> Click the "Sign in" link and if you don't already have a Live ID, >>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>> register. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can then use the web interface to ask questions in the >>>>>>>>>> appropriate >>>>>>>>>> forum, or >>>>>>>>>> you can download and install the Microsoft Answers Bridge from >>>>>>>>>> http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ which allows you to >>>>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>>> using your newsreader. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I haven't dared try any of this bridge stuff yet & don't >>>>>>>>> understand it. >>>>>>>>> I'm leery of installing it before I know what it *is* or how it >>>>>>>>> will mess up >>>>>>>>> my system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you need a LiveID to get the bridge thing? >>>>>>>>> What *is* the bridge -- s/w, website, or what?? >>>>>>>>> Is it a sort of "usenet simulator" that's really a web page? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is this the same LiveID we may already have, though not used? I >>>>>>>>> got it when >>>>>>>>> I thought it was *required* for WLM -- they weren't exactly clear >>>>>>>>> about this >>>>>>>>> part, though I did -- after an uninstall & re-install -- manage to >>>>>>>>> avoid >>>>>>>>> getting *everything*. And there are still some email addresses >>>>>>>>> they won't >>>>>>>>> let you use to sign up, though apparently mine is no longer among >>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will we have to sign in with the LiveID to d/l messages? or just >>>>>>>>> to d/l the >>>>>>>>> bridge s/w (or whatevr it is)? or what? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm already afraid of asking the wrong question in the wrong >>>>>>>>> group; doing it >>>>>>>>> via klunky-web-forum would just make it worse, as it's much harder >>>>>>>>> to browse >>>>>>>>> around first to see if you're even in the right place, or maybe >>>>>>>>> even if your >>>>>>>>> problem has already been asked & answered (asking again due to >>>>>>>>> inadequate >>>>>>>>> old-thread-browsing is akin to a capital offence, it seems.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Should I be asking this in another group? If so, please advise >>>>>>>>> *which* & >>>>>>>>> I'll move. >>>>>>>>> bj >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> |