Rigol oscilloscope prices have sky-rocketed!
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From: Mr.T on 4 Jan 2010 20:35 <miso(a)sushi.com> wrote in message news:8e1c962a-a471-448b-89b6-7239675017f0(a)k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >Surplus isolation transformers are pretty cheap. Yeah when we had surplus stores here I got many big transformers that way. They all (electronics surplus stores) disappeared years ago unfortunately. MrT.
From: Mr.T on 4 Jan 2010 20:36 "Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message news:uso4k5hjk9llvuodgdjuj4ao7e7vfejhcg(a)4ax.com... > >Why should 'dumping prices' be a problem ? > > > Undercutting the "sole agent" could be a problem for the sole agent. And that affects eBay how? MrT.
From: David L. Jones on 4 Jan 2010 20:36 geoff wrote: > David L. Jones wrote: > >> "Hello, Please don't worry, the problem is, an another seller has >> complaint by ebay that i'm selling the rigol oscilloscopes at a >> dumping price" He then offered to complete the original low price >> transaction >> outside of ebay. > > Why should 'dumping prices' be a problem ? It shouldn't be a problem until a local official seller that can't possibly sell them for the same price complains. There are countless companies like (presumably) Rigol that have diferent wholesale pricing in different countries, so an official dealer in say Australia can't even buy it for less than what someone in China sells it for at a profit. Or to hold on to their dealership they aren't allowed to sell it under a certain price. With the advent of ebay and online trading, the world is a global marketplace, so these sorts of traditional regional pricing models make it a big fat mess. You can bet your bottom dollar the ebay sellers in China are (or were) not dumping the scopes at a loss, they made a very tidy profit. I have since heard that another Rigol seller also had their auctions banned for "dumping". So this appears to be the reason for removal of the hundreds of Rigol's that were for sale on Ebay. So it's likely that one (probably official Rigol) seller, that may not even sell on Ebay, spoiled all the fun by complaining. Dave. -- ================================================ Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: http://www.eevblog.com
From: miso on 4 Jan 2010 21:08 On Jan 4, 5:35 pm, "Mr.T" <MrT(a)home> wrote: > <m...(a)sushi.com> wrote in message > > news:8e1c962a-a471-448b-89b6-7239675017f0(a)k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > > >Surplus isolation transformers are pretty cheap. > > Yeah when we had surplus stores here I got many big transformers that way.. > They all (electronics surplus stores) disappeared years ago unfortunately.. > > MrT. I don't know where "here" is for you, but in the SF Bay Area, so much manufacturing has left the area that the surplus stores are struggling to get surplus stuff. Throw ebay into the equation, and there is even less stuff available in stores. But isolation transformers are more of a lab item than a production item, so they may still be in your area locally, but probably stashed in some garage. Topaz transformers show up from time to time at electronics flea markets. In the days when small company owned a Vax, the Topaz was your isolation transformer.
From: miso on 4 Jan 2010 21:17
On Jan 4, 5:36 pm, "David L. Jones" <altz...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > geoff wrote: > > David L. Jones wrote: > > >> "Hello, Please don't worry, the problem is, an another seller has > >> complaint by ebay that i'm selling the rigol oscilloscopes at a > >> dumping price" He then offered to complete the original low price > >> transaction > >> outside of ebay. > > > Why should 'dumping prices' be a problem ? > > It shouldn't be a problem until a local official seller that can't possibly > sell them for the same price complains. > There are countless companies like (presumably) Rigol that have diferent > wholesale pricing in different countries, so an official dealer in say > Australia can't even buy it for less than what someone in China sells it for > at a profit. Or to hold on to their dealership they aren't allowed to sell > it under a certain price. > With the advent of ebay and online trading, the world is a global > marketplace, so these sorts of traditional regional pricing models make it a > big fat mess. > You can bet your bottom dollar the ebay sellers in China are (or were) not > dumping the scopes at a loss, they made a very tidy profit. > > I have since heard that another Rigol seller also had their auctions banned > for "dumping". So this appears to be the reason for removal of the hundreds > of Rigol's that were for sale on Ebay. > So it's likely that one (probably official Rigol) seller, that may not even > sell on Ebay, spoiled all the fun by complaining. > > Dave. > > -- > ================================================ > Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:http://www.eevblog.com Dumping is selling beneath the cost of manufacturing, so only the manufacturer can dump. A vendor can buy out the merchandise from a store that goes out of business and sell those items for less than the manufacturing cost. In the states, the FTC would have to declare a dumping situation. [I haven't had to deal with the FTC in a long time, but it was an amazingly accessible organization considering you were dealing with the government. Like I've said, I need to see the documents on this alleged dumping. I just don't see Ebay taking sides in any kind of dispute like this. Rather, I see Rigol deciding not to sell stock to certain vendors that they don't like. An individual company can set up any distribution channel is desires (well maybe excluding automobiles). A prime example is Apple, that reduces it's vendors to keep the price of their good high. |