From: Don Stockbauer on
On May 28, 12:58 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 5:27 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 23, 12:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > We should all agree that science is only a few hundred years old
> > > taking Galileo as its father. We understand nothing completely. The
> > > idea of science having complete theories  is for the very distant
> > > future; possibly 10's to 100's of millions of years ahead.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> >   I think this is the most sensible thing you've ever said.
>
> >   I think it's one of the most sensible things *anyone* could ever
> > say.
>
> >   We know a lot, but in the grand scheme of things we don't know
> > squat.
>
>   Mark L. Fergerson
>
> We do not know a lot. What you mean is that we have gathered a lot of
> data.

We do know quite a lot, and quite a lot of what really matters when it
gets down to understanding the Universe. Study cybernetics.
From: BURT on
On May 28, 12:39 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 12:58 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 28, 5:27 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 12:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > We should all agree that science is only a few hundred years old
> > > > taking Galileo as its father. We understand nothing completely. The
> > > > idea of science having complete theories  is for the very distant
> > > > future; possibly 10's to 100's of millions of years ahead.
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > >   I think this is the most sensible thing you've ever said.
>
> > >   I think it's one of the most sensible things *anyone* could ever
> > > say.
>
> > >   We know a lot, but in the grand scheme of things we don't know
> > > squat.
>
> >   Mark L. Fergerson
>
> > We do not know a lot. What you mean is that we have gathered a lot of
> > data.
>
> We do know quite a lot, and quite a lot of what really matters when it
> gets down to understanding the Universe.  Study cybernetics.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Bull. You have no proof that we know a lot. You have gotten the wrong
idea. You like to think you do and if not you somebody else. But it
doesn't bear out.

Mitch Raemsch
From: Don Stockbauer on
On May 28, 6:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 12:39 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 28, 12:58 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 28, 5:27 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 23, 12:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > We should all agree that science is only a few hundred years old
> > > > > taking Galileo as its father. We understand nothing completely. The
> > > > > idea of science having complete theories  is for the very distant
> > > > > future; possibly 10's to 100's of millions of years ahead.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > >   I think this is the most sensible thing you've ever said.
>
> > > >   I think it's one of the most sensible things *anyone* could ever
> > > > say.
>
> > > >   We know a lot, but in the grand scheme of things we don't know
> > > > squat.
>
> > >   Mark L. Fergerson
>
> > > We do not know a lot. What you mean is that we have gathered a lot of
> > > data.
>
> > We do know quite a lot, and quite a lot of what really matters when it
> > gets down to understanding the Universe.  Study cybernetics.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Bull. You have no proof that we know a lot. You have gotten the wrong
> idea.  You like to think you do and if not you somebody else. But it
> doesn't bear out.

We know a lot right now. In the future we will know a lot more. "A
lot" is relative.
From: BURT on
On May 28, 8:51 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 6:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 28, 12:39 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 28, 12:58 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 28, 5:27 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 23, 12:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > We should all agree that science is only a few hundred years old
> > > > > > taking Galileo as its father. We understand nothing completely. The
> > > > > > idea of science having complete theories  is for the very distant
> > > > > > future; possibly 10's to 100's of millions of years ahead.
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > >   I think this is the most sensible thing you've ever said.
>
> > > > >   I think it's one of the most sensible things *anyone* could ever
> > > > > say.
>
> > > > >   We know a lot, but in the grand scheme of things we don't know
> > > > > squat.
>
> > > >   Mark L. Fergerson
>
> > > > We do not know a lot. What you mean is that we have gathered a lot of
> > > > data.
>
> > > We do know quite a lot, and quite a lot of what really matters when it
> > > gets down to understanding the Universe.  Study cybernetics.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Bull. You have no proof that we know a lot. You have gotten the wrong
> > idea.  You like to think you do and if not you somebody else. But it
> > doesn't bear out.
>
> We know a lot right now.  

No we don't. We have data.

Mitch Raemsch

> In the future we will know a lot more.  "A
> lot" is relative.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: Don Stockbauer on
On May 29, 2:18 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 8:51 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 28, 6:32 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 28, 12:39 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 28, 12:58 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 28, 5:27 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 23, 12:26 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > We should all agree that science is only a few hundred years old
> > > > > > > taking Galileo as its father. We understand nothing completely. The
> > > > > > > idea of science having complete theories  is for the very distant
> > > > > > > future; possibly 10's to 100's of millions of years ahead.
>
> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > >   I think this is the most sensible thing you've ever said.
>
> > > > > >   I think it's one of the most sensible things *anyone* could ever
> > > > > > say.
>
> > > > > >   We know a lot, but in the grand scheme of things we don't know
> > > > > > squat.
>
> > > > >   Mark L. Fergerson
>
> > > > > We do not know a lot. What you mean is that we have gathered a lot of
> > > > > data.
>
> > > > We do know quite a lot, and quite a lot of what really matters when it
> > > > gets down to understanding the Universe.  Study cybernetics.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Bull. You have no proof that we know a lot. You have gotten the wrong
> > > idea.  You like to think you do and if not you somebody else. But it
> > > doesn't bear out.
>
> > We know a lot right now.  
>
> No we don't. We have data.

Well, your conversational opponent can play the game just a swell as
you can, Mitch:

We know a lot right now.
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