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From: Mr. 2 Cents on 26 Apr 2010 10:40
On 4/26/2010 7:24 AM, HVAC wrote:
> "Mr. 2 Cents"<nadda(a)nadda.com> wrote in message
> news:98gBn.368935$vr1.183725(a)en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com...
> On 4/26/2010 5:14 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> Similarly, Lord Rees, the astronomer royal, warned in a lecture
>> earlier this year that aliens might prove to be beyond human
>> understanding.
>>
>> “I suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms we
>> can’t conceive,” he said. “Just as a chimpanzee can’t understand
>> quantum theory, it could be there are aspects of reality that are
>> beyond the capacity of our brains.”
>
> The statement by Lord Rees is ridiculous and the same kind of fear
> mongering used by theists. I find it reprehensible a respected scientist
> would resort to such hyperbole.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I agree. The odds on another intelligent civilization in
> our galaxy are pretty close to zero.


You might get your Abacus and reading skills tuned.

--


Mr. 2 Cents

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
enough to take everything you have".
-Gerald Ford

From: john on 26 Apr 2010 11:33
On Apr 26, 8:38 am, "The Greatest" <honestj...(a)centurytel.net> wrote:
> > that all aliens are bad.
>
And once they cross the boarder....they can take your job !!
> --
> HJ

Don't cross the boarder when he's reaching for seconds.
He might stab you with his fork.
john
From: jake on 26 Apr 2010 12:20
On Apr 26, 7:14 am, HVAC <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> THE aliens are out there and Earth had better watch out, at least
> according to Stephen Hawking. He has suggested that extraterrestrials
> are almost certain to exist — but that instead of seeking them out,
> humanity should be doing all it that can to avoid any contact.
>
> The suggestions come in a new documentary series in which Hawking, one
> of the world’s leading scientists, will set out his latest thinking on
> some of the universe’s greatest mysteries.
>
> Alien life, he will suggest, is almost certain to exist in many other
> parts of the universe: not just in planets, but perhaps in the centre
> of stars or even floating in interplanetary space.
>
> Hawking’s logic on aliens is, for him, unusually simple. The universe,
> he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of
> millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth is unlikely to be the
> only planet where life has evolved.
>
> “To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about
> aliens perfectly rational,” he said. “The real challenge is to work
> out what aliens might actually be like.”
>
> The answer, he suggests, is that most of it will be the equivalent of
> microbes or simple animals — the sort of life that has dominated Earth
> for most of its history.
>
> One scene in his documentary for the Discovery Channel shows herds of
> two-legged herbivores browsing on an alien cliff-face where they are
> picked off by flying, yellow lizard-like predators. Another shows
> glowing fluorescent aquatic animals forming vast shoals in the oceans
> thought to underlie the thick ice coating Europa, one of the moons of
> Jupiter.
>
> Such scenes are speculative, but Hawking uses them to lead on to a
> serious point: that a few life forms could be intelligent and pose a
> threat. Hawking believes that contact with such a species could be
> devastating for humanity.
>
> He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and
> then move on: “We only have to look at ourselves to see how
> intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to
> meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all
> the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would
> perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever
> planets they can reach.”
>
> He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is “a little
> too risky”. He said: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome
> would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America,
> which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”
>
> The completion of the documentary marks a triumph for Hawking, now 68,
> who is paralysed by motor neurone disease and has very limited powers
> of communication. The project took him and his producers three years,
> during which he insisted on rewriting large chunks of the script and
> checking the filming.
>
> John Smithson, executive producer for Discovery, said: “He wanted to
> make a programme that was entertaining for a general audience as well
> as scientific and that’s a tough job, given the complexity of the
> ideas involved.”
>
> Hawking has suggested the possibility of alien life before but his
> views have been clarified by a series of scientific breakthroughs,
> such as the discovery, since 1995, of more than 450 planets orbiting
> distant stars, showing that planets are a common phenomenon.
>
> So far, all the new planets found have been far larger than Earth, but
> only because the telescopes used to detect them are not sensitive
> enough to detect Earth-sized bodies at such distances.
>
> Another breakthrough is the discovery that life on Earth has proven
> able to colonise its most extreme environments. If life can survive
> and evolve there, scientists reason, then perhaps nowhere is out of
> bounds.
>
> Hawking’s belief in aliens places him in good scientific company. In
> his recent Wonders of the Solar System BBC series, Professor Brian Cox
> backed the idea, too, suggesting Mars, Europa and Titan, a moon of
> Saturn, as likely places to look.
>
> Similarly, Lord Rees, the astronomer royal, warned in a lecture
> earlier this year that aliens might prove to be beyond human
> understanding.
>
> “I suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms we
> can’t conceive,” he said. “Just as a chimpanzee can’t understand
> quantum theory, it could be there are aspects of reality that are
> beyond the capacity of our brains.”

Hawking looks like he should be brain dead like the rest of him. But
I guess not, huh? Kind of reminds me of what Hagar and his twin
sister Chlamydia must look like.
Jake.
From: Double-A on 26 Apr 2010 13:49
On Apr 26, 5:14 am, HVAC <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> THE aliens are out there and Earth had better watch out, at least
> according to Stephen Hawking. He has suggested that extraterrestrials
> are almost certain to exist — but that instead of seeking them out,
> humanity should be doing all it that can to avoid any contact.


Of course Hawking knows there are aliens. He reads alt.astronomy!


> The suggestions come in a new documentary series in which Hawking, one
> of the world’s leading scientists, will set out his latest thinking on
> some of the universe’s greatest mysteries.
>
> Alien life, he will suggest, is almost certain to exist in many other
> parts of the universe: not just in planets, but perhaps in the centre
> of stars or even floating in interplanetary space.


Life in the centre of stars? And you think OUR ideas are kookie!


> Hawking’s logic on aliens is, for him, unusually simple. The universe,
> he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of
> millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth is unlikely to be the
> only planet where life has evolved.
>
> “To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about
> aliens perfectly rational,” he said. “The real challenge is to work
> out what aliens might actually be like.”
>
> The answer, he suggests, is that most of it will be the equivalent of
> microbes or simple animals — the sort of life that has dominated Earth
> for most of its history.
>
> One scene in his documentary for the Discovery Channel shows herds of
> two-legged herbivores browsing on an alien cliff-face where they are
> picked off by flying, yellow lizard-like predators. Another shows
> glowing fluorescent aquatic animals forming vast shoals in the oceans
> thought to underlie the thick ice coating Europa, one of the moons of
> Jupiter.


How about porpoises?


> Such scenes are speculative, but Hawking uses them to lead on to a
> serious point: that a few life forms could be intelligent and pose a
> threat. Hawking believes that contact with such a species could be
> devastating for humanity.
>
> He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and
> then move on:


What could they find here that they would want? Our women?



>“We only have to look at ourselves to see how
> intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to
> meet. I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all
> the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would
> perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever
> planets they can reach.”
>
> He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is “a little
> too risky”. He said: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome
> would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America,
> which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”
>
> The completion of the documentary marks a triumph for Hawking, now 68,
> who is paralysed by motor neurone disease and has very limited powers
> of communication. The project took him and his producers three years,
> during which he insisted on rewriting large chunks of the script and
> checking the filming.
>
> John Smithson, executive producer for Discovery, said: “He wanted to
> make a programme that was entertaining for a general audience as well
> as scientific and that’s a tough job, given the complexity of the
> ideas involved.”
>
> Hawking has suggested the possibility of alien life before but his
> views have been clarified by a series of scientific breakthroughs,
> such as the discovery, since 1995, of more than 450 planets orbiting
> distant stars, showing that planets are a common phenomenon.
>
> So far, all the new planets found have been far larger than Earth, but
> only because the telescopes used to detect them are not sensitive
> enough to detect Earth-sized bodies at such distances.
>
> Another breakthrough is the discovery that life on Earth has proven
> able to colonise its most extreme environments. If life can survive
> and evolve there, scientists reason, then perhaps nowhere is out of
> bounds.
>
> Hawking’s belief in aliens places him in good scientific company.


Including the AA Earth Science Officers!


>In
> his recent Wonders of the Solar System BBC series, Professor Brian Cox
> backed the idea, too, suggesting Mars, Europa and Titan, a moon of
> Saturn, as likely places to look.
>
> Similarly, Lord Rees, the astronomer royal, warned in a lecture
> earlier this year that aliens might prove to be beyond human
> understanding.


You mean like they might be capable of solving the 3-body problem? In
kindergarten?


> “I suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms we
> can’t conceive,” he said. “Just as a chimpanzee can’t understand
> quantum theory, it could be there are aspects of reality that are
> beyond the capacity of our brains.”


One more thing. If Hawking really has Lou Gehrig's disease, how has
he survived with it for 40 years? Gehrig only lived 3 years after he
first noticed the symptoms. Alien elixir?

Double-A



From: Bast on 26 Apr 2010 14:29


Double-A wrote:
> On Apr 26, 5:14 am, HVAC <mr.h...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> THE aliens are out there and Earth had better watch out, at least
>> according to Stephen Hawking. He has suggested that extraterrestrials
>> are almost certain to exist � but that instead of seeking them out,
>> humanity should be doing all it that can to avoid any contact.
>
>
> Of course Hawking knows there are aliens. He reads alt.astronomy!
>
>
>> The suggestions come in a new documentary series in which Hawking, one
>> of the world�s leading scientists, will set out his latest thinking on
>> some of the universe�s greatest mysteries.
>>
>> Alien life, he will suggest, is almost certain to exist in many other
>> parts of the universe: not just in planets, but perhaps in the centre
>> of stars or even floating in interplanetary space.
>
>
> Life in the centre of stars? And you think OUR ideas are kookie!
>
>
>> Hawking�s logic on aliens is, for him, unusually simple. The universe,
>> he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of
>> millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth is unlikely to be the
>> only planet where life has evolved.
>>
>> �To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about
>> aliens perfectly rational,� he said. �The real challenge is to work
>> out what aliens might actually be like.�
>>
>> The answer, he suggests, is that most of it will be the equivalent of
>> microbes or simple animals � the sort of life that has dominated Earth
>> for most of its history.
>>
>> One scene in his documentary for the Discovery Channel shows herds of
>> two-legged herbivores browsing on an alien cliff-face where they are
>> picked off by flying, yellow lizard-like predators. Another shows
>> glowing fluorescent aquatic animals forming vast shoals in the oceans
>> thought to underlie the thick ice coating Europa, one of the moons of
>> Jupiter.
>
>
> How about porpoises?


I think his porpiose was to keep his name in the news



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