From: Woody on
On 28/05/2010 09:50, Trooper wrote:
> Woody wrote:
>> Ben Shimmin<bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Woody<usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk>:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> I will do a review later, but the thing that i am currenly most suprised
>>>> at is not the speed (as people said it was fast - it is), or nice to
>>>> use, but it is some of the software is so nice to use.
>>>
>>> What apps are you liking for it?
>>
>> Well, ignoring the obvious plants vs zombies, I am impressed with the
>> iWork stuff (pages and numbers, didn't bother with the other one, not my
>> sort of app), I like the built in stuff, address book is sort of cutesy
>> but functional, iCal is very nice indeed.
>>
>
> A quick numbers question*, I have an excel spreadsheet which is in my dropbox
> and I use it to track my finances, daily spend on stuff, budget, costs for
> various things over the year etc... Nothing complex, but a fair amount of
> tabs and calculations in it. Can Numbers access Dropbox to get to the
> spreadsheet? (I assume it will be able to read the excel format?) If not, how
> would I go about getting it onto the iPad, there is no folder/file structure
> as I understand it?

A quick numbers answer:

I picked an .xls file from my PC (where I am), not much calculation in
it, as I don't really have that sort of thing on the PC, just some
addition and a bit of VAT stuff.

I put it in /Users/alienrat/My Documents/My Dropbox/Work

I went downstairs to the iPad, opened dropbox, went to my laptop,
searched the email for my dropbox email address, went back to the iPad,
logged in. There is a split view with the folders down the left, and a
space on the right. tapped work and the list (of one file) was there.
tapped it, there was a bit of a pause, then it opened the detail view as
the spreadsheet (I assume a preview). On the right there was one of
those 'send to' icons on the toolbar, opened it and there was the
numbers icon. Selected that, drop box spun out to be replaced with
numbers, there was a progress bar, it opened the file. It looked pretty
much the same as excel.

I must admit, I get more impressed by the day!


--
Woody
From: Trooper on
Woody wrote:
> On 28/05/2010 09:50, Trooper wrote:
>> Woody wrote:
>>> Ben Shimmin<bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Woody<usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk>:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> I will do a review later, but the thing that i am currenly most suprised
>>>>> at is not the speed (as people said it was fast - it is), or nice to
>>>>> use, but it is some of the software is so nice to use.
>>>>
>>>> What apps are you liking for it?
>>>
>>> Well, ignoring the obvious plants vs zombies, I am impressed with the
>>> iWork stuff (pages and numbers, didn't bother with the other one, not my
>>> sort of app), I like the built in stuff, address book is sort of cutesy
>>> but functional, iCal is very nice indeed.
>>>
>>
>> A quick numbers question*, I have an excel spreadsheet which is in my
dropbox
>> and I use it to track my finances, daily spend on stuff, budget, costs for
>> various things over the year etc... Nothing complex, but a fair amount of
>> tabs and calculations in it. Can Numbers access Dropbox to get to the
>> spreadsheet? (I assume it will be able to read the excel format?) If not,
how
>> would I go about getting it onto the iPad, there is no folder/file
structure
>> as I understand it?
>
> A quick numbers answer:
>
> I picked an .xls file from my PC (where I am), not much calculation in
> it, as I don't really have that sort of thing on the PC, just some
> addition and a bit of VAT stuff.
>
> I put it in /Users/alienrat/My Documents/My Dropbox/Work
>
> I went downstairs to the iPad, opened dropbox, went to my laptop,
> searched the email for my dropbox email address, went back to the iPad,
> logged in. There is a split view with the folders down the left, and a
> space on the right. tapped work and the list (of one file) was there.
> tapped it, there was a bit of a pause, then it opened the detail view as
> the spreadsheet (I assume a preview). On the right there was one of
> those 'send to' icons on the toolbar, opened it and there was the
> numbers icon. Selected that, drop box spun out to be replaced with
> numbers, there was a progress bar, it opened the file. It looked pretty
> much the same as excel.
>
> I must admit, I get more impressed by the day!
>

Excellent news, ta for trying it out :) Looks like I will be buying Numbers
then!

I wonder if now it has been opened in Numbers once, you can then get to it
through Numbers directly, without having to go through Dropbox each time, and
if it saves any changes back to dropbox?

T.
From: Peter Ceresole on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> I wish they'd take a step back and ask "What's the best way to solve this?"
> Sometimes the answer may well be Windows. Sometimes it won't.

Apple appear to be able to think that way; they provide a total soution
that doesn't ncessarily have to relate to Apple's software, but to a
user experience.

So for instance, Apple's iTunes setup is so easy to use and so slick
that anything else feels hyper-clumsy.

No coincidence that they have won the music sales business hands down.
Nothing to do with the OS (Mac or Windows) and they're not the cheapest,
but they're sure as hell the best designed.
--
Peter
From: Peter Ceresole on
Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote:

> There's not a whole lot of "everything else"! I'm surprised the back
> weighs so much.

I suspect that's the bit that needs to be more robust and absorb the
thumps and wallops. Only way to make that lighter would be carbon
composite- and that might be just too expensive.
--
Peter
From: Jim on
On 2010-05-28, Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> I wish they'd take a step back and ask "What's the best way to solve this?"
>> Sometimes the answer may well be Windows. Sometimes it won't.
>
> Apple appear to be able to think that way; they provide a total soution
> that doesn't ncessarily have to relate to Apple's software, but to a
> user experience.
>
> So for instance, Apple's iTunes setup is so easy to use and so slick
> that anything else feels hyper-clumsy.

Although I do feel that iTunes (the app) is being used for too much now and
could probably benefit from a ground-up re-write in Cocoa. It's starting to
feel too much like an app that's been ported from some other OS.

Jim
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