From: Woody on
On 28/05/2010 10:18, Trooper wrote:
> Woody wrote:

>> A quick numbers answer:
>>
>> I picked an .xls file from my PC (where I am), not much calculation in
>> it, as I don't really have that sort of thing on the PC, just some
>> addition and a bit of VAT stuff.
>>
>> I put it in /Users/alienrat/My Documents/My Dropbox/Work
>>
>> I went downstairs to the iPad, opened dropbox, went to my laptop,
>> searched the email for my dropbox email address, went back to the iPad,
>> logged in. There is a split view with the folders down the left, and a
>> space on the right. tapped work and the list (of one file) was there.
>> tapped it, there was a bit of a pause, then it opened the detail view as
>> the spreadsheet (I assume a preview). On the right there was one of
>> those 'send to' icons on the toolbar, opened it and there was the
>> numbers icon. Selected that, drop box spun out to be replaced with
>> numbers, there was a progress bar, it opened the file. It looked pretty
>> much the same as excel.
>>
>> I must admit, I get more impressed by the day!
>>
>
> Excellent news, ta for trying it out :) Looks like I will be buying Numbers
> then!
>
> I wonder if now it has been opened in Numbers once, you can then get to it
> through Numbers directly, without having to go through Dropbox each time, and
> if it saves any changes back to dropbox?

Once you have opened in it numbers it stays in the 'numbers files' part,
where you open files from.

I can't see how you can save changes to dropbox after that though. My
options are to email, share via iwork.com, or export as numbers or PDF
file, after which there is a line saying 'the exported file will be
available by File Sharing

--
Woody
From: Peter Ceresole on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Although I do feel that iTunes (the app) is being used for too much now and
> could probably benefit from a ground-up re-write in Cocoa. It's starting to
> feel too much like an app that's been ported from some other OS.

Maybe. But all I use it for is to buy and manage music from the iTMS,
and to synch my iTouch. And that avoids all the cruft; it just works for
me, as it always did.
--
Peter
From: Jim on
On 2010-05-28, Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> Although I do feel that iTunes (the app) is being used for too much now and
>> could probably benefit from a ground-up re-write in Cocoa. It's starting to
>> feel too much like an app that's been ported from some other OS.
>
> Maybe. But all I use it for is to buy and manage music from the iTMS,
> and to synch my iTouch. And that avoids all the cruft; it just works for
> me, as it always did.

By and large it still works fine for me as well, but I'm more and more
getting that 'creaking at the seams' feeling.

Jim
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From: Trooper on
Woody wrote:

>
> Once you have opened in it numbers it stays in the 'numbers files' part,
> where you open files from.
>
> I can't see how you can save changes to dropbox after that though. My
> options are to email, share via iwork.com, or export as numbers or PDF
> file, after which there is a line saying 'the exported file will be
> available by File Sharing
>

I guess it all depends if when you open the file in numbers from dropbox,
whether it copies it to the numbers file location, or just opens it from the
dropbox location? If the latter, then I would expect any updates to show up
in dropbox.

The whole file thing on the iPad i'm struggling to get my head round. I
understand the decision made to obfuscate the file system, but I still need to
actually work with documents and spreadsheets and share them between devices,
machines etc... Where does the exported file go? If I do an export, does
that mean I need to do an export every single time I make a change, other than
just saving it as I would in any other application.
I'm sure it will all become clear when I get my grubby little paws on my iPad,
but i'm preparing myself to be disappointed with this side of the iPad
experience. It looks like my dropbox stored spreadsheet, that I can access
and amend from anywhere, is not going to be able to be used properly on the
iPad...

T.
From: Trooper on
Jim wrote:
> On 2010-05-28, Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Although I do feel that iTunes (the app) is being used for too much now
and
>>> could probably benefit from a ground-up re-write in Cocoa. It's starting
to
>>> feel too much like an app that's been ported from some other OS.
>>
>> Maybe. But all I use it for is to buy and manage music from the iTMS,
>> and to synch my iTouch. And that avoids all the cruft; it just works for
>> me, as it always did.
>
> By and large it still works fine for me as well, but I'm more and more
> getting that 'creaking at the seams' feeling.

Same here. I have a 140gb library now, and iTunes is slow and a massive
resource hog. Importing some video files into my iTunes library last night,
slowed my whole system to a crawl, even loading up web pages in my browser!
Also, I used to have my iTunes library stored on my Drobo, but iTunes just ran
like a total dog when it was over a network, so I pulled my library out and
run it locally now. iTunes still insists on spinning up my NAS when I do any
file importing, copying, syncing etc... and will hang until the NAS is fully
spun up and running, even though i've removed every reference to the NAS that
I can find in every config file.
Add to that, regular hangs which need a task kill and restart, and the pretty
common hang/100% cpu issue when buying a song and iTunes does it's "processing
file" step after downloading, and it is all a bit frustrating to use.

However, this is the Windows version of iTunes, which I accept is not their
core market :D Plus I do have a relatively large library I guess.

I do like iTunes and the way it works, I just wish it was a bit snappier and
had less bugs.

T.