The Age of Steam Begins Today!
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From: T i m on 14 May 2010 11:49 On Fri, 14 May 2010 16:15:56 +0100, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: >>> Why bother to put (some) in there? There isnt a platform made that can >>> play all games, so it isn't really needed. >> >> Well my point was even with the advent of Steam on the Mac it still >> doesn't represent the range of games available to the PC > >The number, don't know about the range. Both I should imagine (for different reasons possibly). > >but yes, that much is pretty obvious that having steam released last >week doesn't mean that every game available on the PC is now on the mac, >so it seemed an odd thing to post, unless you had a specific axe to grind! Not an axe to grind (I care less remember) just an observation. > >> So, Chris was always able to 'play games' on his Mac and now he can >> play a few more, hence the 'some'. ;-) > >> HTH, > >No, Not really! that much was already known by him and everyone else That could go for a lot said on Usenet then (and not just by me). > so >I guess mentioning it was some kind of dig for some reason. Or touched a nerve with you possibly? The point (FWIW) was no more than on one hand we (some) seem to be excited that Steam has finally come to the Mac when if I was more Mac orientated I might be pissed off it wasn't there already, or took so long to get here. I guess seen from 'this side' it's (to the game players) something worthy of note. For others it seems less of a surprise. > I don't know >why but if it made you happy so be it! Nope, especially as I haven't been playing games since I got this Mac and less so that I couldn't play it on this Mac under OSX (so far ... and another facet to my comment). > >> (And I thought you weren't interested? Yes I know, not in Steam or >> those sorts of games ,<sigh>) ;-) > >I love games.I don't play that many but I just really hate steam. I have >only used it for two games and it seems to cause a big faff that didn't >seem to have a need. OK (it does seem faffy for sure but then I don't like such interfaces anyway. iTunes, Adobe downloaders etc). > >I bought half life 2, couldn't install it for a while as the serial >number was printed badly, changed PCs, had a problem with that, had >loads of updates all the time on that computer for steam that I wasn't >even the slightest bit interested in, and when I recently went to play >it again recently it wouldn't accept my username / password for steam, Hehe .. >wouldn't let me play the game on the other account I made for the other >game (umm.. call of duty, MW2) as the serial was in use, but wouldn't >let me know why my username wouldn't log in unless I sent them a >photocopy of the box / cd and serial number. Screw that, I just wanted >to play the game! A faff as you say. > >Fallout on the other hand, install the disk, play it for 4 months Same with me and Pariah. Did you need the game CD in the drive as I can't even stand that (and ran a Daemon for Pariah). Cheers, T i m
From: Andrew Collier on 15 May 2010 19:30 In article <2toqu517o9clppjmt5qeq4l3jtj8u3j480(a)4ax.com>, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > On 14 May 2010 13:40:13 GMT, zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >Only problem is having all the Steam data in ~/Documents... If, in > >theory, I backed up my documents folder to someone else's disk over the > >Internet, I'd be backing up a lot of data I didn't need to ;) > > Now you see why I make a ~/Documents/Jaimie's Docs/ folder and back > *that* up! So many applications use the ~/Documents folder as a dumping ground for their random files, that I've entirely given up on trying to use it. Any files I actually want go in ~/Stuff. Andrew -- --- Andrew Collier ---- To reply by email, please use: ---- http://www.intensity.org.uk/ --- 'andrew {at} intensity.org.uk' --
From: Andrew Collier on 15 May 2010 19:43 In article <17aqu55b76q935iqnm89ornt0l5st6dpo3(a)4ax.com>, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > Apple's history of updating each particular video driver > once (or never) will probably change, for a start... Not sure what you mean, here. The Apple's graphics drivers are updated very frequently, and have been for years. It perhaps isn't very visible though, as they're rolled into OS updates. > there might even > be a move towards vendor-supplied drivers, though I can't see that > getting Jobsian approval! For add-in cards (such as you might buy for the Mac Pro) I think it already is expected that users download drivers from the GPU manufacturer. For models supplied by Apple though, I imagine that Apple will continue to include driver updates in the OS updates and not expect users even to know what kind of graphics chip is installed in their computer. As for the authorship of the drivers themselves, I get the impression from Apple's OpenGL mailing list that the GPU vendors are very involved in the process of writing drivers, but I have no information on how the code handover works. I do imagine Apple insists on receiving source code). Andrew -- --- Andrew Collier ---- To reply by email, please use: ---- http://www.intensity.org.uk/ --- 'andrew {at} intensity.org.uk' --
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 16 May 2010 07:44 On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:43:22 +0100, Andrew Collier <spambucket(a)intensity.org.uk> wrote: >In article <17aqu55b76q935iqnm89ornt0l5st6dpo3(a)4ax.com>, > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: > >> Apple's history of updating each particular video driver >> once (or never) will probably change, for a start... > >Not sure what you mean, here. The Apple's graphics drivers are updated >very frequently, and have been for years. It perhaps isn't very visible >though, as they're rolled into OS updates. I knew they were in the updates, but I'd understood them to be to support new cards in new model Macs, rather than to update the drivers for existing ones - except in the occasional case of bugfixes. I don't recall seeing anything like "New driver for nVidia 7600 cards with performance enhancements" in the release notes. I'll defer to your clearly greater knowledge (mention of the mailing list) though. >> there might even >> be a move towards vendor-supplied drivers, though I can't see that >> getting Jobsian approval! > >For add-in cards (such as you might buy for the Mac Pro) I think it >already is expected that users download drivers from the GPU >manufacturer. Mix and match - ATI have some (which I didn't realise), but looking at nVidia's driver page, http://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-uk there's no OSX in the OS dropdown. Cheers - Jaimie -- "The answer to the second question," said Merry, "is that we could get off in an hour. I have prepared practically everything. There are six ponies in the stable across the fields." -- J R R Tolkien
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 16 May 2010 07:44
On Sun, 16 May 2010 00:30:28 +0100, Andrew Collier <spambucket(a)intensity.org.uk> wrote: >In article <2toqu517o9clppjmt5qeq4l3jtj8u3j480(a)4ax.com>, > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: >> On 14 May 2010 13:40:13 GMT, zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> >Only problem is having all the Steam data in ~/Documents... If, in >> >theory, I backed up my documents folder to someone else's disk over the >> >Internet, I'd be backing up a lot of data I didn't need to ;) >> >> Now you see why I make a ~/Documents/Jaimie's Docs/ folder and back >> *that* up! > >So many applications use the ~/Documents folder as a dumping ground for >their random files, that I've entirely given up on trying to use it. > >Any files I actually want go in ~/Stuff. I couldn't do that, it's the name of my NAS share. Too confusing! Cheers - Jaimie -- "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" -- Charles Darwin |