The Big Bang Theory Big Blunder: An Open Letter to Closed Minds
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From: Albertito on 29 Sep 2009 10:38 On Sep 29, 3:22 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...(a)nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote: > Don Gillies wrote: > > Don't want to get into putdowns and abuse here, and certainly don't > > claim to know much. However, I must say that I find the idea of the > > big bang (a whole lot of stuff appearing out of nothing) just as > > fantastical as the idea that three letters of the alphabet strung > > together to spell "god" explain the creation of the universe. A bit > > more technical detail with the big bang theory, of course, but as far > > as I know, it hasn't got round the difficulty of how something (an > > incredible lot of stuff, actually) came out of nothing. I have often > > felt a bit uneasy about how astronomy books nowdays treat the big > > bang as accepted fact. There was a time, not so long ago, when books > > did present it as supposition. Not sure when the change from > > supposition to accepted dogma came about, but it does look a bit like > > everyone now feels they have to toe the party line. > > You find the idea of the universe appearing out of nothing > fantastical. Would you find the idea of the universe always > having been around (or having appeared out of *something*), > and at the same time conspiring to make us think it appeared > out of nothing, less fantastical? > > Dirk Vdm In the case of an eternal universe, 'fantastical' is not the most appropriate word, but 'self-consistent'. Eternal universe (i.e. without beginning and without an end) is the reason of its own existence, it didn't need a creator or any Big Bang beginning whatsoever.
From: dlzc on 29 Sep 2009 11:05 Dear Albertito: On Sep 29, 7:38 am, Albertito <albertito1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: .... > In the case of an eternal universe, > 'fantastical' is not the most > appropriate word, but 'self-consistent'. So you want to discuss religion, rather than Science? The second law of thermodynamics is inconsistent with an eternal Universe. > Eternal universe (i.e. without beginning > and without an end) is the reason of its > own existence, it didn't need a creator > or any Big Bang beginning whatsoever. Just a suspension of the laws of "eternal" physics in our case, which puts us in a special place again. Followup set to a more suitable newsgroup. David A. Smith
From: mpc755 on 29 Sep 2009 11:45 On Sep 29, 6:59 am, Albertito <albertito1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > An Open Letter to Closed Mindshttp://www.s8int.com/bigbang2.html > > I apologize for my possibly rude words, > but Einstein's Relativity (both SR & GR) > along with the Big Bang Theory are all > > B U L L S H I T ! > > and > > D E F E C A T I O N ! > > the biggest damage to the advance of > science ever! The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream.
From: PD on 29 Sep 2009 11:49 On Sep 29, 10:45 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Sep 29, 6:59 am, Albertito <albertito1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > An Open Letter to Closed Mindshttp://www.s8int.com/bigbang2.html > > > I apologize for my possibly rude words, > > but Einstein's Relativity (both SR & GR) > > along with the Big Bang Theory are all > > > B U L L S H I T ! > > > and > > > D E F E C A T I O N ! > > > the biggest damage to the advance of > > science ever! > > The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream. MPC got tired of replying to himself and is in need of some attention. He won't talk to Phil Bouchard about it, either.
From: mpc755 on 29 Sep 2009 11:54
On Sep 29, 11:49 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Sep 29, 10:45 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sep 29, 6:59 am, Albertito <albertito1...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > An Open Letter to Closed Mindshttp://www.s8int.com/bigbang2.html > > > > I apologize for my possibly rude words, > > > but Einstein's Relativity (both SR & GR) > > > along with the Big Bang Theory are all > > > > B U L L S H I T ! > > > > and > > > > D E F E C A T I O N ! > > > > the biggest damage to the advance of > > > science ever! > > > The universe is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream. > > MPC got tired of replying to himself and is in need of some attention. > He won't talk to Phil Bouchard about it, either. The universe is not expanding. It is, or the local universe is in, a jet stream. |