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On Sep 29, 7:38 am, Albertito <albertito1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 3:22 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
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> <dirkvandemoor...(a)nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Don Gillies wrote:
> > > Don't want to get into putdowns and abuse here, and certainly don't
> > > claim to know much. However, I must say that I find the idea of the
> > > big bang (a whole lot of stuff appearing out of nothing) just as
> > > fantastical as the idea that three letters of the alphabet strung
> > > together to spell "god" explain the creation of the universe.  A bit
> > > more technical detail with the big bang theory, of course, but as far
> > > as I know,  it hasn't got round the difficulty of how something (an
> > > incredible lot of stuff, actually) came out of nothing. I have often
> > > felt  a bit uneasy about how astronomy books nowdays treat the big
> > > bang as accepted fact. There was a time, not so long ago, when books
> > > did present it as  supposition. Not sure when the change from
> > > supposition to accepted dogma came about, but it does look a bit like
> > > everyone now feels they have to toe the party line.
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> > You find the idea of the universe appearing out of nothing
> > fantastical. Would you find the idea of the universe always
> > having been around (or having appeared out of *something*),
> > and at the same time conspiring to make us think it appeared
> > out of nothing, less fantastical?
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> > Dirk Vdm
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> In the case of an eternal universe, 'fantastical' is
> not the most appropriate word, but 'self-consistent'.
> Eternal universe (i.e. without beginning and without
> an end) is the reason of its own existence, it didn't
> need a creator or any Big Bang beginning whatsoever.- Hide quoted text -
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