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From: Inertial on 5 Apr 2010 06:46

"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 5, 10:54 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:6ca1ebc7-4cb6-4ad0-b4d2-6882d7467442(a)r1g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 5, 9:58 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:6575e595-0ee0-49e8-ae9f-448c0a4c0708(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > As for me
>>
>> >> > the Doppler effect
>> >> > is an immediate disprove of the
>> >> > E=hf
>>
>> >> Except it doesn't. Frequency (and energy) is frame dependent
>>
>> >> > as the definition is a single smallest photon energy !!
>>
>> >> Which it refutes .. if you are claiming that photons are made up of
>> >> smaller
>> >> photons with a fixed frequencies and energy.
>>
>> >> Is that what you claim .. the a photon of light (say) is made up of
>> >> smaller
>> >> energy photons, of fixed frequency and energy?
>>
>> >> > (ps
>> >> > this issue is only for cleaver honest
>> >> > creative people
>> >> > ie not for crooked parrots ..or just crooks ...)
>>
>> >> So why are you posting it .. you ARE a crook.
>>
>> > ----------------------
>> > (:-)
>> > and that anonymous psychopath imbecile
>> > Inertial = ARTFUL == ???
>> > is the example to creatures whom
>>
>> That's you
>>
>> > i am not going to discuss with !!
>>
>> Scared eh? I have shown you wrong too many times.
>>
>> > 2
>> > since i don t believe in spoon feeding
>> > can anyone
>> > of the other readers guess
>> > why i claim the above ??
>>
>> What above?
>
> ------------------------
> i thought i wrote English
> **i am not going to discuss with """"Inertial**
> is it not clear enough??!!

Yeup .. you're afraid because you know that I'll tear your nonsense argument
apart with physics. Typical coward.



From: Y.Porat on 5 Apr 2010 07:04
On Apr 5, 12:46 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b5ecb203-b632-4be8-8165-f95c12f17aa8(a)i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 10:54 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:6ca1ebc7-4cb6-4ad0-b4d2-6882d7467442(a)r1g2000yqj.googlegroups.com....
>
> >> > On Apr 5, 9:58 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> >> >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:6575e595-0ee0-49e8-ae9f-448c0a4c0708(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> >> > As for me
>
> >> >> > the Doppler effect
> >> >> > is an immediate disprove of the
> >> >> > E=hf
>
> >> >> Except it doesn't.  Frequency (and energy) is frame dependent
>
> >> >> > as  the definition is a single smallest photon energy !!
>
> >> >> Which it refutes .. if you are claiming that photons are made up of
> >> >> smaller
> >> >> photons with a fixed frequencies and energy.
>
> >> >> Is that what you claim .. the a photon of light (say) is made up of
> >> >> smaller
> >> >> energy photons, of fixed frequency and energy?
>
> >> >> > (ps
> >> >> > this issue is only for cleaver honest
> >> >> > creative  people
> >> >> > ie not for  crooked parrots ..or just crooks ...)
>
> >> >> So why are you posting it .. you ARE a crook.
>
> >> > ----------------------
> >> > (:-)
> >> > and that anonymous psychopath imbecile
> >> > Inertial = ARTFUL  == ???
> >> > is the   example to  creatures whom
>
> >> That's you
>
> >> > i am not going  to discuss  with !!
>
> >> Scared eh?  I have shown you wrong too many times.
>
> >> > 2
> >> > since i don t believe in spoon feeding
> >> > can anyone
> >> > of the other readers guess
> >> > why i claim the above ??
>
> >> What above?
>
> > ------------------------
> > i thought i wrote English
> > **i am not going to discuss with """"Inertial**
> > is it not clear enough??!!
>
> Yeup .. you're afraid because you know that I'll tear your nonsense argument
> apart with physics.  Typical coward.

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From: Igor on 5 Apr 2010 14:07
On Apr 5, 3:55 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> As for me
>
> the Doppler effect
> is an immediate disprove of the
> E=hf
> as  the definition is a single smallest photon energy !!
>

Please explain how.

From: BURT on 5 Apr 2010 18:19
On Apr 5, 11:07 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 3:55 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As for me
>
> > the Doppler effect
> > is an immediate disprove of the
> > E=hf
> > as  the definition is a single smallest photon energy !!
>
> Please explain how.

You must set H bar to one because Plancks constant gives to small of
energy for a light wave frequency.
From: xxein on 5 Apr 2010 19:11
On Apr 5, 3:55 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> As for me
>
> the Doppler effect
> is an immediate disprove of the
> E=hf
> as  the definition is a single smallest photon energy !!
>
> (ps
>  this issue is only for cleaver honest
> creative  people
> ie not for  crooked parrots ..or just crooks ...)
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> --------------------

xxein: I won't go into detail but math is just a clothier of the
physic. A fashion statement.

Do photons have intrinsic frequencies or are they just produced as a
string of successive alike photons for us to measure as a frequency?
Do processes release photons at different rates to cause a different
energy output to us?

Is the photo-electric effect just a measure of threshold energy/time
(frequency of all-alike photons)?

Does the universe contract here (many mass localities) or is it
expanding? Is the expansion increasing wrt time? What is it that is
contracting and expanding? How does the Pioneer show a negative
differential to an increasing rate of expansion?

If you can find out how to shed the clothes we put on the physic, you
will have a better chance of understanding it.
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