From: default on
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:44:21 -0700, gyansorova(a)gmail.com wrote:

>Is it not about time that we saw more hi spec electric cars on our
>roads. I saw the Tesla Roadster and it outperforms a Ferarri on
>acceleration but what of teh charging time. Can we now re-charge in
>say 10 mins? The overnight charge is impractable unless the car is to
>be used for short distances from home.
>
>http://youtube.com/watch?v=kRd7ER7u-KU

Tesla Roadster has a range of 250 miles and recharge time of 12 hours.
That is more than ample for most commutes.

Of course if you have the money for one, paying for gas ain't the
problem.
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From: Phil Allison on

"default"

>>Is it not about time that we saw more hi spec electric cars on our
>>roads. I saw the Tesla Roadster and it outperforms a Ferarri on
>>acceleration but what of teh charging time. Can we now re-charge in
>>say 10 mins? The overnight charge is impractable unless the car is to
>>be used for short distances from home.
>
> Tesla Roadster has a range of 250 miles and recharge time of 12 hours.
> That is more than ample for most commutes.


** The Roadster has a recharge time ( from dead flat ) of 3.5 hours -
according to the makers.

Only thing is, owners need to have a dedicated, 3 phase power outlet
available at home with a capacity of 15 kW - then it will costs about
$10 or so in electricity for a full recharge.


However ..............

- just load the boot (ie trunk in the USA) with a bunch of these babies
and get it done in only 1 minute !!!!!

http://www.dcviews.com/press/Toshiba-One-minute.htm


All you need is ** 3 megawatts ** capacity in the garage !!!!!

Circa 4500 amps per phase .




........ Phil


From: MooseFET on
On Jul 29, 3:55 am, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:
> Martin Griffith wrote:
> >If they could recharge in 10 mins, the US power grid would burn out
>
> To a first aproximation, given a large number of electric cars
> on a power grid, the load on the power grid is almost the same
> whether they recharge in ten minutes or ten hours. In the
> later case, you have 60 times as many cars being recharged at
> any given time, each of which is drawing 1/60th as much power.
>
> Short recharge times would, however, have a large effect on the
> time of day that the charging would take place. At ten hours
> everyone will plug in when they get home. At ten minutes a
> large number will try to recharge in the morning right before
> leaving for work. And the grid has to be sized for peak load,
> not average load...

At 2 seconds, people will recharge it just before they set out. At
ten minutes, they will plug the charger in when they get how. Nobody
wants to wait an extra ten minutes before they start on their hour
long commute.


> Either way, I don't see the total capacity of the current power
> grid being enough. Household nuclear reactors, anyone? :)

The owners will get a better deal on the power if they let the power
company control the charging current. The feature will be built into
the charger and most people will use it.

From: Eeyore on


Ross Herbert wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> >gyansorova(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> Can we now re-charge in say 10 mins?
> >
> >No.
> >
> >This is another reason why hybrids make more sense.
>
> Not so, according to this page
> http://www.autospectator.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3627

And a similar article thought it 'proved' even a Hummer was more green than a
Prius. A marketing company too, not scientific researchers.

I'll pass on that.

Graham


From: Eeyore on


default wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:44:21 -0700, gyansorova(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Is it not about time that we saw more hi spec electric cars on our
> >roads. I saw the Tesla Roadster and it outperforms a Ferarri on
> >acceleration but what of teh charging time. Can we now re-charge in
> >say 10 mins? The overnight charge is impractable unless the car is to
> >be used for short distances from home.
> >
> >http://youtube.com/watch?v=kRd7ER7u-KU
>
> Tesla Roadster has a range of 250 miles and recharge time of 12 hours.
> That is more than ample for most commutes.

The apparent absence of a roof renders it useless in the UK.

Graham