From: Sam Gillett on 23 Nov 2006 19:22 "Ville Muikkula" wrote ... > In comp.sys.cbm spike1(a)freenet.co.uk wrote: > >> We don't do that silly thanksgiving stuff over here. > > Besides, it is originally a celebration of successful massacres of > native tribes. > > John Westcott and Paul Apodaca write: "The year was 1637... 700 men, > women, and children of the Peqout Tribe gathered for their annual "Green > Corn Dance" in the area that is now known as Groton, Connecticut. > While they were gathered in a place of meeting , they were surrounded > and attacked by mercenaries of the English and Dutch. The Indians were > ordered from the building and as they came forth, they were shot down. The > rest were burned alive in the building. > The next day, the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared "A > day of thanksgiving" thanking god that they had eliminated all the men, > women, and children." Where did that come from? Maybe wickipedia, the worlds greatest source of mis-information? Thanksgiving Day was first observed by the Pilgrims in the fall of 1621, when Governor William Bradford of Plymouth Colony appointed a day for feasting and thanksgiving. That is some 16 years before the date that your source of mis-information gives. Thanksgiving Day was celebrated traditionally in the United States on the fourth or last Thursday in November and, by proclamation of the president, is appointed as a legal holiday, usually the fourth Thursday of that month. Canada also observes a legal Thanksgiving Day, usually on the second Monday in October. -- Best regards, Sam Gillett Change is inevitable, except from vending machines!
From: Sam Gillett on 23 Nov 2006 19:22 "Lister" <fache(a)SPAMclara.net> wrote ... > On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:24:36 GMT, spike1(a)freenet.co.uk wrote: > >>We don't do that silly thanksgiving stuff over here. > > He's a Merkin, Spike, you expect him to believe there are countries > other than America? :) Sure there's other countries. There is someplace called China. I have all sorts of junk around here with "Made in China" marked on it. And, over by the copy machine, there is an old Altoids tin, which says "Made in Great Britain" on it.... wherever that is. >:-) -- Best regards, Sam Gillett Change is inevitable, except from vending machines!
From: Daniel Mandic on 23 Nov 2006 19:29 Sam Gillett wrote: > > <spike1(a)freenet.co.uk> wrote ... > > > > Indeed. More like comparing mice to elephants. > > Run, before a Commodore user steps on you!! bah, not serious, that happened us too... > > BTW, Happy Thanksgiving. :-) Happy what? Have you ever planted something or somewhat?? Best Regards, Daniel Mandic
From: Daniel Mandic on 23 Nov 2006 19:35 Lister wrote: > > We don't do that silly thanksgiving stuff over here. > > > He's a Merkin, Spike, you expect him to believe there are countries > other than America? :) That's US.... United States of the World. 'Property of', and that stuff... Best Regards, Daniel Mandic
From: Ville Muikkula on 24 Nov 2006 02:37
In comp.sys.cbm Sam Gillett <samgillettnospam(a)diespammermsn.com> wrote: > Where did that come from? Maybe wickipedia, the worlds greatest source of > mis-information? Here is one good source for that story: A Brief History of The Pequot War: Especially of the memorable Taking of their Fort at Mistick in Connecticut in 1637. Written by Major John Mason, a principal Actor therein, as then chief Captain and Commander of Connecticut Forces. With an Introduction and some Explanatory Notes by the Reverend Mr. Thomas Prince. http://bc.barnard.columbia.edu/~rmccaugh/earlyAC/readings/pequot/pequot.pdf Nathaniel Shurtleff, ed. Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England, Vol I. Boston, 1853. p.204: "The 12th of the 8th m. was ordered to bee kept a day of publicke thanksgiving to God for his great m'cies in subdewing the Pecoits, bringing the soldiers in safety, the successe of the conference, & good news from Germany." The Journal of John Winthrop 1630 - 1649. Abridged edition. Richard S. Dunn & Laetitia Yeandle, ed. p. 130 - 131: "A day of thanksgiving kept in all the churches for our victories against the Pequots, and for the success of the assembly; but by reason of this latter, some of Boston would not be present at the public exercises." Cooking the History Books: The Thanksgiving Massacre Is All That Turkey and Stuffing a Celebration of Genocide? http://indy.pabn.org/archives/213thank.shtml |