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From: Skitt on 1 Mar 2010 01:23 PaulJK wrote: > Peter T. Daniels wrote: >> "PaulJK" wrote: >>> Are you suggesting that some (often disinterested) government >>> official would have more reliable sources of detail of the birth? >> >> I'm observing that over here, birth certificates are done in the >> hospital (presumably for home etc. births there are equivalent >> provisions) and signed by witnesses on the spot, not a week later. >> >> What about folks who didn't get baptized? > > Well, obviously their certificates were not issued by any christian > church. I don't really know which government department was > responsible for issuing BCs at that time. > > Most of my mother's family were atheists for generations. > They usually had their children baptised in a church nearest > to their home. I presume it was then the cheapest way of > conforming to the law and getting the birth certificates issued. I was born in a country that had no birth certificates, therefore I am without one. Every adult in that country had a passport, and the birth of a child was recorded in the mother's passport. I have a certified translation of that entry, and it sufficed whenever a birth certificate was required. Now I have my own passport, but of the USA kind. -- Skitt (AmE) AUE's token Latvian
From: Skitt on 1 Mar 2010 01:39 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > Hatunen wrote: >> "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: >>> Hatunen wrote: >>>> David Harmon wrote: >>>>> There is no such holiday as "President's Day" to US government >>>>> offices. >>>>> http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp >>>> >>>> Interesting. I had assumed there was. And I see that there is one >>>> in some states. Certainly businesses think there is one in their >>>> sales advertisements. >>> >>> The Post Office was closed for Presidents' Day in 2010. >> >> Not an American post office. They were closed for Washington's >> Birthday, no matter what a sign on the door or whatnot might have >> said. > > Don't be ridiculous. Washington's Birthday is February 22 (Gregorian), > and Presidents' Day was observed on Feburary 15. Sorry, that's not the way it works. In case you did not read what the Feds have at http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp here is what it says about the holiday that was celebrated on the 15th of February this year: This holiday is designated as "Washington's Birthday" in section 6103(a) of title 5 of the United States Code, which is the law that specifies holidays for Federal employees. Though other institutions such as state and local governments and private businesses may use other names, it is our policy to always refer to holidays by the names designated in the law. Maybe that's not the way it should be, but the government moves in mysterious ways, innit? -- Skitt (AmE)
From: James Hogg on 1 Mar 2010 01:47 tony cooper wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:19:23 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" > <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >> On Feb 28, 9:40 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:44:53 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: >>>> On Feb 28, 6:29 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:09:57 -0800, David Harmon >>>>> <sou...(a)netcom.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:56:25 -0500 in alt.usage.english, tony cooper >>>>>> <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote, >>>>>>> As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on >>>>>>> President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks. To the >>>>>> There is no such holiday as "President's Day" to US government offices. >>>>>> http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp >>>>> Interesting. I had assumed there was. And I see that there is one >>>>> in some states. Certainly businesses think there is one in their >>>>> sales advertisements. >>>> The Post Office was closed for Presidents' Day in 2010. >>> Not an American post office. They were closed for Washington's >>> Birthday, no matter what a sign on the door or whatnot might have >>> said. >> Don't be ridiculous. Washington's Birthday is February 22 (Gregorian), >> and Presidents' Day was observed on Feburary 15. > > Your foot's bleeding again. Have the bullet removed before the wound > festers. > > Washington's Birthday was officially shifted to the third Monday in > February by the Uniform Monday Holiday Act in 1971. The federal > holiday has never officially been changed to President's Day. > > The change was made 39 years ago. You've never noticed? It was assumed that you would supply the quantifier "some". -- James
From: Nick on 1 Mar 2010 02:59 "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes: > "State" is not a useful term for 'nation-state' because it is serving > a different, much more salient function not only in the US, but also > in (at least) Mexico and Brazil, and I think Germany. So are you suggesting that "failed state" and "rogue state" are expressions that have no meaning in the US. Because I thought that's where they both originated. Or do they only apply to one of your provinces going off the rails? -- Online waterways route planner | http://canalplan.eu Plan trips, see photos, check facilities | http://canalplan.org.uk
From: James Hogg on 1 Mar 2010 03:02
Nick wrote: > "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes: > >> "State" is not a useful term for 'nation-state' because it is serving >> a different, much more salient function not only in the US, but also >> in (at least) Mexico and Brazil, and I think Germany. > > So are you suggesting that "failed state" and "rogue state" are > expressions that have no meaning in the US. > > Because I thought that's where they both originated. Or do they only > apply to one of your provinces going off the rails? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_Rogue_State_Park -- James |