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From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 07:53 António Marques wrote: > jmfbahciv wrote (23-02-2010 12:28): >> Andrew Usher wrote: >>> Joachim Pense wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> But 0 is the start of computer indexing - at least in real >>>>>>>> programs. 0 >>>>>>>> = Sunday. >>>>>>> Ahem. In low level, pointer oriented languages such as C and its >>>>>>> family. And those who chose to imitate it. >>>>>> But not in the first language I used when working for a living >>>>>> (COBOL). >>>>>> >>>>> Nor FORTRAN DO statements. Most people start at 1. You can also >>>>> write an off-by-1 bug in loops depending on whether you start the loop >>>>> with 0 or 1. >>>>> >>>> Neither Pascal. >>> >>> Well, I'm astounded. Indexing from 0 is so obviously the Right Way >>> that I can't imagine why anyone would do it the other way. >>> >> You always count items starting with 0? > > It's a matter of stupid perspective. Since the array's position is the > 'first', the 'first' element's position is the array's ('first') plus 0. > First plus 0 = first! How do you find the second if the data is stored from the bottom up; how do you find the second if the data is stored from the top down. How do you find the nth? Subtract one from your index register? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 07:54 sjdevnull(a)yahoo.com wrote: > On Feb 23, 6:19 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: >> Dunno about the rest of the world, but in the US court-ordered busing >> has most kids riding the bus to school anyway > > Court-ordered busing never affected a substantial fraction of US > school children (it peaked at below 5%, IIRC) and since 1980 or so has > been very limited. Post-2000, it's headed toward extinction. Why are you assuming that kids don't use busses? Just because the courts have recused themselves out of this business does not imply that those kids now walk to school. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 07:56 Trond Engen wrote: > Peter T. Daniels skrev: > >> On Feb 22, 10:55 pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:37:43 +0800, Robert Bannister >>> <robb...(a)bigpond.com> wrote in <news:7ugpr7Fll6U1(a)mid.individual.net> >>> in sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >>> >>>> Brian M. Scott wrote: >>>> >>>>> R H Draney wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>>>>> Daylight Saving Time.... >>>>>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>>>>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r >>>>> >>>>> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all year round. >>>> >>>> I think you should go and live in Inverness until you change your mind. >>> >>> I can't imagine why you think that I'd change my mind. As >>> far as I'm concerned, DST has no disadvantages at any time >>> of year in any climate at any latitude. In winter at higher >>> latitudes its advantages are minimal, but it still has no >>> disadvantages. I couldn't care less how dark it is in the >>> morning; it's in the afternoon and evening that I want the >>> benefit of as much daylight as possible. >> >> The point is that the kiddies shouldn't go off to school in the dark. > > Huh? That would give them two months leave each winter. > <grin> /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 08:02 J. Clarke wrote: > On 2/23/2010 11:54 AM, sjdevnull(a)yahoo.com wrote: >> On Feb 23, 9:36 am, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>> On 2/23/2010 8:39 AM, sjdevn...(a)yahoo.com wrote: >>> >>>> On Feb 23, 6:19 am, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>>>> Dunno about the rest of the world, but in the US court-ordered busing >>>>> has most kids riding the bus to school anyway >>> >>>> Court-ordered busing never affected a substantial fraction of US >>>> school children (it peaked at below 5%, IIRC) and since 1980 or so has >>>> been very limited. Post-2000, it's headed toward extinction. >>> >>> In what jurisdiction has it been discontinued? >> >> Most of them. >> >> See, e.g., >> http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/11/us/by-court-order-busing-ends-where-it-began.html?pagewanted=1 >> >> "CHARLOTTE, N.C., Sept. 10� The school system that pioneered busing >> for desegregation three decades ago was ordered today to halt the >> program by a Federal judge who ruled that forced integration was no >> longer necessary because all vestiges of intentional discrimination >> had disappeared." >> http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P1-52114978.html >> "DAYTON, Ohio (AP) _ A federal judge lifted a desegregation order >> Monday after the city agreed to spend at least $30 million to improve >> public schools, ending more than 25 years of cross-town busing >> designed to achieve racial balance in the schools." >> http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/views/y/1999/03/delaney.busing.mar18/ >> "Court-ordered busing ended in Boston in 1987." >> >> Feel free to Google more. > > Well praise de lawd, the courts are finally coming to their senses. So > are the kids in those towns now walking to the nearest school again? > > Of course not. You should be able to find the Boston school budget for transportation somewhere. It's millions and noone wants to stop doing that kind of business. All the kids in suburbs are bussed. there are even special buses for "special needs" kids; each one of them gets their own chauffeur. The only difference w.r.t. court-ordered busing was where the kids got dropped off. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 24 Feb 2010 08:03
Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: > António Marques <antonioprm(a)sapo.pt> writes: > >> jmfbahciv wrote (23-02-2010 12:28): >>> Andrew Usher wrote: >>>> Well, I'm astounded. Indexing from 0 is so obviously the Right Way >>>> that I can't imagine why anyone would do it the other way. >>>> >>> You always count items starting with 0? >> It's a matter of stupid perspective. Since the array's position is the >> 'first', the 'first' element's position is the array's ('first') plus >> 0. First plus 0 = first! > > Why would you assume that the position of the first element is > necessarily identical to the position of the array? > Exactly. I sure hope these people aren't coding airplanes or metro transportation systems. /BAH |