From: Evan Kirshenbaum on
Mike Barnes <mikebarnes(a)bluebottle.com> writes:

> Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com>:

>>You can define the week any way you want, but the historical
>>seven-day week begins on Sunday.
>
> Not everywhere.

I'd say that the *historical* seven-day week began on Sunday. Or are
there modern seven-day weeks that don't go back to the Jewish "on the
seventh day he rested" week? Wikipedia lists a whole bunch of weeks
of different lengths, ranging from three days to thirteen days (the
Romans used eight, the Chinese ten), but the seven-day weeks all
appear to have been borrowed (ultimately) from the same source.

--
Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
HP Laboratories |There's been so much ado already
1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |that any further ado would be
Palo Alto, CA 94304 |excessive.
| Lori Karkosky
kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com
(650)857-7572

http://www.kirshenbaum.net/


From: R H Draney on
Adam Funk filted:
>
>On 2010-02-23, R H Draney wrote:
>
>> Adam Funk filted:
>>>
>>>As an emacs user, I'm not going to mock someone else's mnemnonics.
>>
>>(Not as long as the word "hexlify" appears in the standard command set, you're
>> not....)
>
>Thanks for the tip. I wasn't familiar with that command, and from now
>on it will save me the trouble having to drop out to hexedit (not very
>often, I admit).

Some of the data I used to work with made it so essential that I bound the keys
M-C-x to it....r


--
"Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly."
- Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on
tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes:

> As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on
> President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks. To the
> rest of the working stiffs, President's Day is just another
> work-day...a busier work-day for retail employees, in fact.

It's a company holiday at HP (in the US). Our holiday calendar is

New Year's Day (or the first weekday thereafter)
Martin Luther King Day
President's Day
Memorial Day
Independence Day (or the closest weekday)
Labor Day
Thanksgiving Day and the day after
Christmas

and one "company-designated floater", typically used to make
Christmas, New Years, or the Fourth of July into a four-day weekend.
(This year it's 12/31.) Before we got MLK Day, we got a "Spring
Holiday" that always fell on Good Friday.

In the UK, they get, let's see

New Year's Day and, in Scotland, the day after
St. Patrick's Day (only in Northern Ireland)
Good Friday
Easter Monday (except in Scotland)
May Bank Holiday (May 3rd)
Late Spring Bank Holiday (May 31st)
Summer Holiday (July 12th in NI, August 2nd in Scotland)
Late Summer Bank Holiday (August 30th, not in Scotland)
Christmas Day
Boxing Day

In Australia, the ones marked as "company holidays" are

New Year's Day
Labour Day
Easter Monday
ANZAC Day (in NSW and WA)
Christmas Day
Boxing Day

There are a bunch of others on the calendar, varying by site, but it's
not clear that those are actually days off. Interestingly, Labour Day
is all over the calendar:

Mar. 7th Western Australia
Mar. 8th Victoria
May 3rd Queensland
Oct. 4th ACT, NSW, SA

I don't see it listed for the Tasmanian sites (Launceston and Hobart)

--
Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
HP Laboratories |There are just two rules of
1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |governance in a free society: Mind
Palo Alto, CA 94304 |your own business. Keep your hands
|to yourself.
kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com | P.J. O'Rourke
(650)857-7572

http://www.kirshenbaum.net/


From: R H Draney on
Evan Kirshenbaum filted:
>
>"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes:
>
>> But since we know it's a tall tale, we know that it is not "true" or
>> "reportage." What the story tells us is that the most recent teller
>> has a low opinion of American Indians, Irishmen, or (in my
>> hypothetical), African Americans.
>
>What's "reportage" is the "I've heard it commented". If Dave, living
>in Arizona, has heard it told about Indians, then that's the tale he's
>reporting having heard. And the choice of ethnicity is an interesting
>part of the tale, giving insight into the attitudes of those who tell
>it (as distinct from those who merely report having heard it).

Knowing some of these peoples, I can imagine the Apache telling such a tale
about the Papago*, or the Navajo telling it about the Hopi....r

* Yes, they're "Tohono O'odham" now, but in the world of the joke, the old
politically incorrect terms continue to flourish....


--
"Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly."
- Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle
From: R H Draney on
PaulJK filted:
>
>Trond Engen wrote:
>> Brian M. Scott skrev:
>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:41:20 -0800, Skitt
>>> <skitt99(a)comcast.net> wrote in
>>> <news:hm17gp$89l$1(a)news.albasani.net> in
>>> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english:
>>>
>>>> PaulJK wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We invented DST to set clocks back one hour in summer
>>>>
>>>> forward
>>>
>>> That's the usual terminology, at least in the U.S., but it
>>> does depends on one's point of view.
>>
>> And everything is the other way around in New Zealand.
>
>Just try to remember exactly which way to wind your clock
>when its face is upside down and you are standing on your head.

....and with the water in the toilet swirling the wrong way.

.....r


--
"Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly."
- Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle