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From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 24 Feb 2010 11:12 Mike Barnes <mikebarnes(a)bluebottle.com> writes: > Andrew Usher <k_over_hbarc(a)yahoo.com>: >>You can define the week any way you want, but the historical >>seven-day week begins on Sunday. > > Not everywhere. I'd say that the *historical* seven-day week began on Sunday. Or are there modern seven-day weeks that don't go back to the Jewish "on the seventh day he rested" week? Wikipedia lists a whole bunch of weeks of different lengths, ranging from three days to thirteen days (the Romans used eight, the Chinese ten), but the seven-day weeks all appear to have been borrowed (ultimately) from the same source. -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |There's been so much ado already 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |that any further ado would be Palo Alto, CA 94304 |excessive. | Lori Karkosky kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
From: R H Draney on 24 Feb 2010 12:25 Adam Funk filted: > >On 2010-02-23, R H Draney wrote: > >> Adam Funk filted: >>> >>>As an emacs user, I'm not going to mock someone else's mnemnonics. >> >>(Not as long as the word "hexlify" appears in the standard command set, you're >> not....) > >Thanks for the tip. I wasn't familiar with that command, and from now >on it will save me the trouble having to drop out to hexedit (not very >often, I admit). Some of the data I used to work with made it so essential that I bound the keys M-C-x to it....r -- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle
From: Evan Kirshenbaum on 24 Feb 2010 12:30 tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> writes: > As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on > President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks. To the > rest of the working stiffs, President's Day is just another > work-day...a busier work-day for retail employees, in fact. It's a company holiday at HP (in the US). Our holiday calendar is New Year's Day (or the first weekday thereafter) Martin Luther King Day President's Day Memorial Day Independence Day (or the closest weekday) Labor Day Thanksgiving Day and the day after Christmas and one "company-designated floater", typically used to make Christmas, New Years, or the Fourth of July into a four-day weekend. (This year it's 12/31.) Before we got MLK Day, we got a "Spring Holiday" that always fell on Good Friday. In the UK, they get, let's see New Year's Day and, in Scotland, the day after St. Patrick's Day (only in Northern Ireland) Good Friday Easter Monday (except in Scotland) May Bank Holiday (May 3rd) Late Spring Bank Holiday (May 31st) Summer Holiday (July 12th in NI, August 2nd in Scotland) Late Summer Bank Holiday (August 30th, not in Scotland) Christmas Day Boxing Day In Australia, the ones marked as "company holidays" are New Year's Day Labour Day Easter Monday ANZAC Day (in NSW and WA) Christmas Day Boxing Day There are a bunch of others on the calendar, varying by site, but it's not clear that those are actually days off. Interestingly, Labour Day is all over the calendar: Mar. 7th Western Australia Mar. 8th Victoria May 3rd Queensland Oct. 4th ACT, NSW, SA I don't see it listed for the Tasmanian sites (Launceston and Hobart) -- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------ HP Laboratories |There are just two rules of 1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |governance in a free society: Mind Palo Alto, CA 94304 |your own business. Keep your hands |to yourself. kirshenbaum(a)hpl.hp.com | P.J. O'Rourke (650)857-7572 http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
From: R H Draney on 24 Feb 2010 12:31 Evan Kirshenbaum filted: > >"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes: > >> But since we know it's a tall tale, we know that it is not "true" or >> "reportage." What the story tells us is that the most recent teller >> has a low opinion of American Indians, Irishmen, or (in my >> hypothetical), African Americans. > >What's "reportage" is the "I've heard it commented". If Dave, living >in Arizona, has heard it told about Indians, then that's the tale he's >reporting having heard. And the choice of ethnicity is an interesting >part of the tale, giving insight into the attitudes of those who tell >it (as distinct from those who merely report having heard it). Knowing some of these peoples, I can imagine the Apache telling such a tale about the Papago*, or the Navajo telling it about the Hopi....r * Yes, they're "Tohono O'odham" now, but in the world of the joke, the old politically incorrect terms continue to flourish.... -- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle
From: R H Draney on 24 Feb 2010 12:32
PaulJK filted: > >Trond Engen wrote: >> Brian M. Scott skrev: >> >>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:41:20 -0800, Skitt >>> <skitt99(a)comcast.net> wrote in >>> <news:hm17gp$89l$1(a)news.albasani.net> in >>> sci.math,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.lang,alt.usage.english: >>> >>>> PaulJK wrote: >>>> >>>>> We invented DST to set clocks back one hour in summer >>>> >>>> forward >>> >>> That's the usual terminology, at least in the U.S., but it >>> does depends on one's point of view. >> >> And everything is the other way around in New Zealand. > >Just try to remember exactly which way to wind your clock >when its face is upside down and you are standing on your head. ....and with the water in the toilet swirling the wrong way. .....r -- "Oy! A cat made of lead cannot fly." - Mark Brader declaims a basic scientific principle |