From: tony cooper on
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 04:51:09 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote:

>> >Don't be ridiculous. Washington's Birthday is February 22 (Gregorian),
>> >and Presidents' Day was observed on Feburary 15.
>>
>> Your foot's bleeding again. �Have the bullet removed before the wound
>> festers.
>>
>> Washington's Birthday was officially shifted to the third Monday in
>> February by the Uniform Monday Holiday Act in 1971. �The federal
>> holiday has never officially been changed to President's Day.
>>
>> The change was made 39 years ago. �You've never noticed?
>
>In some states, we think Lincoln was pretty important, too.
>
>We note that you moved to a part of the country where Lincoln is
>despised.
>

If there's an anti-Lincoln sentiment in Florida I'm not aware of it.
To be honest about it - and I should be when Abe is involved - Lincoln
really isn't the subject of many conversations around here.

Is your "We" an insular "We" or a Royal "We"? For what group do you
speak? New Yorkers, linguists, or generally-considered-to-be-potty
cross-posters?


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Peter T. Daniels on
On Mar 1, 8:25 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> On 2/28/2010 2:09 PM, David Harmon wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:56:25 -0500 in alt.usage.english, tony cooper
> > <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net>  wrote,

> >> As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on
> >> President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks.  To the
>
> > There is no such holiday as "President's Day" to US government offices.
> >http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp
>
> While that is a true statement, it does not alter the fact that the post
> office was closed on that date.

Welcome to the world of a.u.e. nitpickery.
From: Peter T. Daniels on
On Mar 1, 8:35 am, tony cooper <tony_cooper...(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 04:51:09 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
>
>
>
>
>
> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >Don't be ridiculous. Washington's Birthday is February 22 (Gregorian),
> >> >and Presidents' Day was observed on Feburary 15.
>
> >> Your foot's bleeding again. Have the bullet removed before the wound
> >> festers.
>
> >> Washington's Birthday was officially shifted to the third Monday in
> >> February by the Uniform Monday Holiday Act in 1971. The federal
> >> holiday has never officially been changed to President's Day.
>
> >> The change was made 39 years ago. You've never noticed?
>
> >In some states, we think Lincoln was pretty important, too.
>
> >We note that you moved to a part of the country where Lincoln is
> >despised.
>
> If there's an anti-Lincoln sentiment in Florida I'm not aware of it.
> To be honest about it - and I should be when Abe is involved - Lincoln
> really isn't the subject of many conversations around here.  

That says something right there.

> Is your "We" an insular "We" or a Royal "We"?  For what group do you
> speak?  New Yorkers, linguists, or generally-considered-to-be-potty
> cross-posters?

If you have so much trouble interpreting simple English, why do you
hang around a.u.e.?

The "we" are the residents of New York and Illinois.
From: James Silverton on
jmfbahciv wrote on Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:37:01 -0500:

> Peter Moylan wrote:
>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>> James Silverton wrote:
>>
>>>>> You always could "start" at numbers other than one. Or
>>>>> are you talking about the actual memory assigned to the
>>>>> array?
>>>> Yes, there were ways of doing that but when you defined an array
>>>> with, say,
>>>>
>>>> DIMENSION A(100)
>>>>
>>>> The array elements were A(1) to A(100).
>>>>
>>>> I think it was Fortran77 where, say,
>>>>
>>>> REAL (0:99) :: A
>>>>
>>>> became a valid declaration.
>>>>
>>> Thanks. I swear I read the 77 ANSI proposal but I don't
>>> remember this stuff. That one had to cause bugs.
>>
>> I've never used Fortran 77, but I don't see how that would
>> cause bugs. If the array bounds have to be declared, the
>> compiler can insert checks for subscripts being out of
>> bounds, and in fact that is what is done in most of the
>> modern programming languages I know something about.

> Those checks are usually done at compile time, not runtime. Your
> FORTRAN example implies that indexing doesn't have to be an integer.
> That's what I was thinking about when I made the
> statement about "had to cause bugs". Someday I should reread the 77
> standard again.

The REAL statement refers to the contents of the array, You could also
have, say,

INTEGER (-33:33) :: A.

I believe Fortran90 allows non integer indices but how they worked, I
don't know, since I only scanned a book on that. I had been using C and
C++ for a while then. Fortran compilers did not check for "out of
bounds" errors as far as I remember.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

From: J. Clarke on
On 3/1/2010 8:35 AM, tony cooper wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 04:51:09 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <grammatim(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Don't be ridiculous. Washington's Birthday is February 22 (Gregorian),
>>>> and Presidents' Day was observed on Feburary 15.
>>>
>>> Your foot's bleeding again. Have the bullet removed before the wound
>>> festers.
>>>
>>> Washington's Birthday was officially shifted to the third Monday in
>>> February by the Uniform Monday Holiday Act in 1971. The federal
>>> holiday has never officially been changed to President's Day.
>>>
>>> The change was made 39 years ago. You've never noticed?
>>
>> In some states, we think Lincoln was pretty important, too.
>>
>> We note that you moved to a part of the country where Lincoln is
>> despised.
>>
>
> If there's an anti-Lincoln sentiment in Florida I'm not aware of it.
> To be honest about it - and I should be when Abe is involved - Lincoln
> really isn't the subject of many conversations around here.

Florida is a bit different from the rest of the South in terms of its
history--while technically it was a slave state it wasn't admitted to
statehood until 20 years or so before the Civil War and prior to that
time it had been a refuge for escaped slaves, so Floridians never had
much of a problem with Lincoln.

> Is your "We" an insular "We" or a Royal "We"? For what group do you
> speak? New Yorkers, linguists, or generally-considered-to-be-potty
> cross-posters?
>
>