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From: James Silverton on 2 Mar 2010 08:28 PaulJK wrote on Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:01:20 +1300: > Algol 60, i.e. thirty years before Fortan90, allowed general > expressions in array declarations, e.g. > real array A(i*2 : fcall(p,3)); > It wasn't particularly difficult to compile, since all code to > compile general arithmetical expressions was already there. > The expression (i*2) and the function call (fcall(p,3)) had to > be evaluated at run time but that wasn't difficult either. > The whole array declaration was evaluated at run time > as if it were a function call which resulted in an area of > memory being reserved on the top of the stack by pointing > the top of the stack pointer beyond it. Actually, the first compiled language that I used was Algol in 1960. The resulting programs on the Burrouughs 220 were so pathetically unoptimized and slow that I ended up using machine language and a primitive assembler. I never brought myself to use Algol again. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
From: Peter T. Daniels on 2 Mar 2010 08:34 On Mar 2, 6:39 am, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> wrote: > CDB wrote: > > Robert Bannister wrote: > >> Hatunen wrote: > >>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>>> Hatunen<hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > >>>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>>> [...] > > >>>>>> That may be another point of contention: pleasantly cool > >>>>>> means about 25 , and really good weather starts at about > >>>>>> 30 . And 5:30 or 6:15 is a nice time to go to bed. > >>>>> I do hope you mean celsius degrees. > >>>> I do indeed; Rob's posting from Oz. > >>> When mentioning temperatures I always try to remember to use "C" > >>> or "F". > >> I thought there was only one country that used F, although I suppose > >> Canada swings both ways, so we only have to remember who lives in > >> America. > > > We still use imperial for some things, but temperatures, apart from > > body-temperatures, are Celsius. I would be surprised to find someone > > under 30 who was comfortable with Fahrenheit. > > And baking. Most ovens and recipes have Fahrenheit. > > Everyone uses Celsius for the weather. > > It seems as though we got stuck halfway in the conversion process - > fabric and other sewing materials have been sold by metric measures for > many years, but when looking for a new curtain-rod recently, I noticed > that the type I was looking for was offered in 7 or 10 foot lengths > (which were singularly useless since I was looking for 5 foot lengths). Might I suggest that (unless you were looking at fantastically expensive yard goods with a one-off, non-repeating, pattern) that you purchase 10-foot material and cut it in half? > Maybe they haven't converted the curtain-rod factories yet, or maybe > we're lumped in as a market with the US, so we get sometimes get US > goods, with maybe a sticker with the metric equivalent stuck on the > package). > > I think the nurses weigh newborns in metric, and convert the weight to > pounds for the proud parents. I've never really understood why the first > thing (after boy or girl?) people want to announce is how heavy the baby is. An indication of healthiness? And, 15 or so years later, the mother will want to be able to clarify to the offspring how many hours she spent in pain delivering that enormous mass of needs and demands and this is the thanks she gets.
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Mar 2010 08:55 J. Clarke wrote: > On 2/28/2010 2:09 PM, David Harmon wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:56:25 -0500 in alt.usage.english, tony cooper >> <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote, >>> As far as I can tell, the only employers that are closed on >>> President's Day are government offices, schools, and banks. To the >> >> There is no such holiday as "President's Day" to US government offices. >> http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2010.asp > > While that is a true statement, it does not alter the fact that the post > office was closed on that date. >> > And some businesses considered it as a paid holiday. /BAH
From: Cheryl on 2 Mar 2010 08:47 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > On Mar 2, 6:39 am, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> wrote: >> CDB wrote: >>> Robert Bannister wrote: >>>> Hatunen wrote: >>>>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >>>>>> Hatunen<hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: >>> >>>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: >>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>> That may be another point of contention: pleasantly cool >>>>>>>> means about 25 , and really good weather starts at about >>>>>>>> 30 . And 5:30 or 6:15 is a nice time to go to bed. >>>>>>> I do hope you mean celsius degrees. >>>>>> I do indeed; Rob's posting from Oz. >>>>> When mentioning temperatures I always try to remember to use "C" >>>>> or "F". >>>> I thought there was only one country that used F, although I suppose >>>> Canada swings both ways, so we only have to remember who lives in >>>> America. >>> We still use imperial for some things, but temperatures, apart from >>> body-temperatures, are Celsius. I would be surprised to find someone >>> under 30 who was comfortable with Fahrenheit. >> And baking. Most ovens and recipes have Fahrenheit. >> >> Everyone uses Celsius for the weather. >> >> It seems as though we got stuck halfway in the conversion process - >> fabric and other sewing materials have been sold by metric measures for >> many years, but when looking for a new curtain-rod recently, I noticed >> that the type I was looking for was offered in 7 or 10 foot lengths >> (which were singularly useless since I was looking for 5 foot lengths). > > Might I suggest that (unless you were looking at fantastically > expensive yard goods with a one-off, non-repeating, pattern) that you > purchase 10-foot material and cut it in half? No, it was the rod that was far too long (and hence, of course, more expensive than I wanted). I suppose I could have cut the rod to measure, if I knew someone who could cut metal. I can't, as I found out when I tried to cut a metal rod with a hacksaw to the right size to fix a folding chair. I think it's easier to buy a new folding chair. But back to the curtains - oddly enough, one set does have a complicated pattern with a central medallion, which means the fabric couldn't be sliced lengthwise without spoiling the effect. Since I want full curtains, I'm using the full width of the fabric for each panel, minus a bit for curtain ties. The fabric was bought by metric measures, which in the case of width, by an odd coincidence turns out to be 60 inches. I suspect the looms haven't been converted to metric measurement. >> Maybe they haven't converted the curtain-rod factories yet, or maybe >> we're lumped in as a market with the US, so we get sometimes get US >> goods, with maybe a sticker with the metric equivalent stuck on the >> package). >> >> I think the nurses weigh newborns in metric, and convert the weight to >> pounds for the proud parents. I've never really understood why the first >> thing (after boy or girl?) people want to announce is how heavy the baby is. > > An indication of healthiness? > > And, 15 or so years later, the mother will want to be able to clarify > to the offspring how many hours she spent in pain delivering that > enormous mass of needs and demands and this is the thanks she gets. Very true. But now they say that babies who are too fat will have weight problems the rest of their lives. I wondered if the mothers of large babies wanted their sufferings understood, because other mothers of large babies would be sure to sympathize. -- Cheryl
From: Peter T. Daniels on 2 Mar 2010 08:57
On Mar 2, 8:47 am, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> wrote: > Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > On Mar 2, 6:39 am, Cheryl <cperk...(a)mun.ca> wrote: > >> CDB wrote: > >>> Robert Bannister wrote: > >>>> Hatunen wrote: > >>>>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>>>>> Hatunen<hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: > >>> >>>> "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...(a)csuohio.edu> wrote: > >>>>>> [...] > >>>>>>>> That may be another point of contention: pleasantly cool > >>>>>>>> means about 25 , and really good weather starts at about > >>>>>>>> 30 . And 5:30 or 6:15 is a nice time to go to bed. > >>>>>>> I do hope you mean celsius degrees. > >>>>>> I do indeed; Rob's posting from Oz. > >>>>> When mentioning temperatures I always try to remember to use "C" > >>>>> or "F". > >>>> I thought there was only one country that used F, although I suppose > >>>> Canada swings both ways, so we only have to remember who lives in > >>>> America. > >>> We still use imperial for some things, but temperatures, apart from > >>> body-temperatures, are Celsius. I would be surprised to find someone > >>> under 30 who was comfortable with Fahrenheit. > >> And baking. Most ovens and recipes have Fahrenheit. > > >> Everyone uses Celsius for the weather. > > >> It seems as though we got stuck halfway in the conversion process - > >> fabric and other sewing materials have been sold by metric measures for > >> many years, but when looking for a new curtain-rod recently, I noticed > >> that the type I was looking for was offered in 7 or 10 foot lengths > >> (which were singularly useless since I was looking for 5 foot lengths).. > > > Might I suggest that (unless you were looking at fantastically > > expensive yard goods with a one-off, non-repeating, pattern) that you > > purchase 10-foot material and cut it in half? > > No, it was the rod that was far too long (and hence, of course, more > expensive than I wanted). I suppose I could have cut the rod to measure, > if I knew someone who could cut metal. I can't, as I found out when I > tried to cut a metal rod with a hacksaw to the right size to fix a > folding chair. I think it's easier to buy a new folding chair. Oops, sorry. The only curtain rods I've ever dealt with telescope. > But back to the curtains - oddly enough, one set does have a complicated > pattern with a central medallion, which means the fabric couldn't be > sliced lengthwise without spoiling the effect. Since I want full > curtains, I'm using the full width of the fabric for each panel, minus a > bit for curtain ties. The fabric was bought by metric measures, which in > the case of width, by an odd coincidence turns out to be 60 inches. I > suspect the looms haven't been converted to metric measurement. > > >> Maybe they haven't converted the curtain-rod factories yet, or maybe > >> we're lumped in as a market with the US, so we get sometimes get US > >> goods, with maybe a sticker with the metric equivalent stuck on the > >> package). > > >> I think the nurses weigh newborns in metric, and convert the weight to > >> pounds for the proud parents. I've never really understood why the first > >> thing (after boy or girl?) people want to announce is how heavy the baby is. > > > An indication of healthiness? > > > And, 15 or so years later, the mother will want to be able to clarify > > to the offspring how many hours she spent in pain delivering that > > enormous mass of needs and demands and this is the thanks she gets. > > Very true. > > But now they say that babies who are too fat will have weight problems > the rest of their lives. > > I wondered if the mothers of large babies wanted their sufferings > understood, because other mothers of large babies would be sure to > sympathize. |