From: R H Draney on
Peter T. Daniels filted:
>
>On Mar 1, 11:28=A0pm, Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>>
>> =A0 =A0 Cal. Gov. Code 19853. =A0(a) All state employees shall be entitle=
>d
>> =A0 =A0 to the following holidays: January 1, the third Monday in January=
>,
>> =A0 =A0 the third Monday in February, March 31, the last Monday in May,
>> =A0 =A0 July 4, the first Monday in September, November 11, Thanksgiving
>> =A0 =A0 Day, the day after Thanksgiving, December 25, the day chosen by a=
>n
>> =A0 =A0 employee pursuant to Section 19854, and every day appointed by th=
>e
>> =A0 =A0 Governor of this state for a public fast, thanksgiving, or
>> =A0 =A0 holiday.
>>
>
>Why couldn't they say "the fourth Thursday and Friday of November"?

If November starts on a Friday, the fourth Friday comes before the fourth
Thursday....r


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From: Peter T. Daniels on
On Mar 2, 2:34 pm, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>
> > On Mar 2, 3:04 am, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
> >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>
> >> > Then where are you posting from?
>
> >> You're the persistent Google groups user IIRC.  Look it up, or don't
>
>                                                   ^
> Look!  There's another one.  Whenever you quote me there's a little
> underscore-like character appears where the second of my double spaces
> are.

I see a caret. It has never happened when I quote any other poster, so
it's not me.

> >> care.
>
> >> Actually, of course, it's "somewhere in England".
>
> > So you're claiming there are no mathematicians, physicists, or
> > astrononmers in England? I find that rather hard to believe.
>
> ?
>
> I'm not claiming anything of the sort.  I'm not even claiming not to be
> a mathematician, physicist or astronomer (although in fact I'm not any of
> those).  I'm just denying posting from any of those groups (although, of
> course, I could easily post from one of those while not being one of
> them).
>
> But I am claiming to be sitting somewhere in England when I post.

So what? How is that relevant to the newsgroup you're reading?

> > Now I'm beginning to think you're an English major.
>
> Nope, never went into the military either.

Right, writing "somewhere in England" you wouldn't know what "English
major" means. I don't know the British nominalization for someone who
"reads English" "in university."
From: Adam Funk on
On 2010-03-02, Nick wrote:

> "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes:
>
>> On Mar 2, 3:04 am, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
>>> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>>>
>>> > Then where are you posting from?
>>>
>>> You're the persistent Google groups user IIRC.  Look it up, or don't
> ^
> Look! There's another one. Whenever you quote me there's a little
> underscore-like character appears where the second of my double spaces
> are.

It's 0xA0, the ISO Latin-1 non-breaking space --- completely
unnecessary, just another stupid Google Groups thing.

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From: Nick on
"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim(a)verizon.net> writes:

> On Mar 2, 2:34 pm, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
>> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>>
>> > On Mar 2, 3:04 am, Nick <3-nos...(a)temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:
>> >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes:
>>
>> >> > Then where are you posting from?
>>
>> >> You're the persistent Google groups user IIRC.  Look it up, or don't
>>
>>                                                   ^
>> Look!  There's another one.  Whenever you quote me there's a little
>> underscore-like character appears where the second of my double spaces
>> are.
>
> I see a caret. It has never happened when I quote any other poster, so
> it's not me.

No, the caret is me pointing at the symbol. The symbol is immediately
before the L of Look.

There's another before the T of There and the W of Whenever in the next line.

> Right, writing "somewhere in England" you wouldn't know what "English
> major" means. I don't know the British nominalization for someone who
> "reads English" "in university."

If I'd done that and completed the course, I'd be an English Graduate.
Otherwise I don't think we have a noun term for what you are when an
undergraduate on a particular course of study ("reading", btw, is in
fairly limited use these days, most of us (and it's 25 years since I was
an undergraduate) would have said that we were "studying English" (or
whatever)).

I always assumed that "major" meant that you were studying two courses,
but one was the most important. Is that the case? These days that's
far more common over here, people seem to take what we used to call
"joint honours" in bizarre combinations of subjects.
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From: Glenn Knickerbocker on
Nick wrote:
> >> You're the persistent Google groups user IIRC. � Look it up, or don't
> ^
> Look! There's another one. Whenever you quote me there's a little
> underscore-like character appears where the second of my double spaces
> was.

Google is translating your second space into a nonbreaking space (0xA0)
so that it will be displayed in a Web page. It's properly displayed as
just a space, but Emacs must be showing it to you as something else to
alert you that it's not a "normal" space. Google does change the data,
but it's your tool, not Peter's, that's changing its graphical image.

Then, when you post it, Gnus encodes it in UTF-8. My ancient Netscape
(which I may finally replace with Thunderbird now that a few more of the
missing basic functions have been added in version 3) then displays it
without decoding it, so I wind up quoting it as an A-circumflex followed
by a space (0x4120).

I still think it would be nice if mail and news tools left 8-bit data
unencoded when it didn't use any of the code points that differ between
the ISO 8859 and Windows code pages, unless some other code page was
specified.

�R