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From: Brian M. Scott on 24 Feb 2010 14:44 Peter T. Daniels wrote: > On Feb 24, 1:30 pm, Evan Kirshenbaum > <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> wrote: [...] >> But to the question of "Do they consider themselves >> Christians?" the answer seems to be pretty clearly >> "Yes". > So, anyone who enters US territory and declares themself > to be a citizen, is a US citizen? One's citizenship is a matter of law; one's Christianity is a matter of opinion. [...] Brian
From: Peter T. Daniels on 24 Feb 2010 14:44 On Feb 24, 1:38 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote: > On 24 Feb 2010 09:31:13 -0800, R H Draney <dadoc...(a)spamcop.net> > wrote: > > > > > > >Evan Kirshenbaum filted: > > >>"Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> writes: > > >>> But since we know it's a tall tale, we know that it is not "true" or > >>> "reportage." What the story tells us is that the most recent teller > >>> has a low opinion of American Indians, Irishmen, or (in my > >>> hypothetical), African Americans. > > >>What's "reportage" is the "I've heard it commented". If Dave, living > >>in Arizona, has heard it told about Indians, then that's the tale he's > >>reporting having heard. And the choice of ethnicity is an interesting > >>part of the tale, giving insight into the attitudes of those who tell > >>it (as distinct from those who merely report having heard it). > > >Knowing some of these peoples, I can imagine the Apache telling such a tale > >about the Papago*, or the Navajo telling it about the Hopi....r > > >* Yes, they're "Tohono O'odham" now, but in the world of the joke, the old > >politically incorrect terms continue to flourish.... > > Just to be fair here, I heard it when I was living in Ohio... So someone in Ohio thought it was more politically correct to insult American Indians than Hibernians.
From: Peter T. Daniels on 24 Feb 2010 14:47 On Feb 24, 2:22 pm, "Skitt" <skit...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > It's really annoying this year -- Vancouver is only three hours ahead > > of us (i.e., they've already had their morning events by the time it's > > morning here), so lots of what NBC is showing us on tape could easily > > have been done live. (The first night of figure skating had the magic > > notation "Live," but it disappeared since -- presumably so they can do > > time compression and eliminate the waits between performance and > > score, and between performances. They even broke in the other day to > > show the last minute of the US-Canada hockey game, which was being > > shown live on MSNBC for those with cable, instead of their prepared > > piece on the day's [yawn] two-man bobsledding.) > > Aren't you in the New York area? If so, when you wake up and have your > coffee, the people in Vancouver are probably still sound asleep. Morning > comes three hours later in Vancouver than it does in New York. Ah yes. I was all messed up by my recent two-and-two-halves days in Berkeley. No coffee, however. > > Do the Pacific states get the same coverage we do? > > We Californians are in the same time zone as Vancouver, but a lot of the > coverage we see in prime time is tape from an earlier event. I can see many > results on the Web before I watch them on TV. > -- > Skitt (AmE)
From: Tak To on 24 Feb 2010 15:01 Michael Press wrote: > In article <hlvvbr$50g$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > "PaulJK" <paul.kriha(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> Brian M. Scott wrote: >>> R H Draney wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>> If you want a crank, find the person who came up with >>>> Daylight Saving Time.... >>>> Then find his successor who decided that DST should apply >>>> for more of the year than "Standard" time....r >>> I like DST; my only objection is that we don't have it all >>> year round. >> I would prefer if every 24 hour day was made longer by one >> hour, i.e. 25 hours long. I know it would cause some strife >> for many people but I for one and people like me wouldn't have >> to suffer the pain of advancing my slow circadian rhythm clock >> by an hour every morning. > > There is a reason our circadian period is ~25 hour. > It is easier to reset a physical oscillator before > its natural end of cycle, than just after; much, > much easier. A free running 25 hour period allows > for enough stochastic variation to keep the period > longer than 24 hour. Just a reminder: the 25 hour circadian period only manifests itself when the body does not receive any timing clues (light/darkness, clocks, fixed meal times etc). It is "natural" only if one defines "natural" that way. The problem a lot of people experiencing regarding their circadian rhythm is not the 24-25 discrepancy but the mismatch of their circadian type (chronotype) with the requirements of their daily activities. It can also be that their circadian rhythm is somehow immune to "training" by timing clues. Tak -- ----------------------------------------------------------------+----- Tak To takto(a)alum.mit.eduxx --------------------------------------------------------------------^^ [taode takto ~{LU5B~}] NB: trim the xx to get my real email addr
From: benlizro on 24 Feb 2010 15:06
On Feb 25, 8:47 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > On Feb 24, 2:22 pm, "Skitt" <skit...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > Peter T. Daniels wrote: > > > It's really annoying this year -- Vancouver is only three hours ahead > > > of us (i.e., they've already had their morning events by the time it's > > > morning here), so lots of what NBC is showing us on tape could easily > > > have been done live. (The first night of figure skating had the magic > > > notation "Live," but it disappeared since -- presumably so they can do > > > time compression and eliminate the waits between performance and > > > score, and between performances. They even broke in the other day to > > > show the last minute of the US-Canada hockey game, which was being > > > shown live on MSNBC for those with cable, instead of their prepared > > > piece on the day's [yawn] two-man bobsledding.) > > > Aren't you in the New York area? If so, when you wake up and have your > > coffee, the people in Vancouver are probably still sound asleep. Morning > > comes three hours later in Vancouver than it does in New York. > > Ah yes. I was all messed up by my recent two-and-two-halves days in > Berkeley. Like I said, it's confusing. I just realized the other day that the reason I've seen so little of the live coverage (compared to Beijing) is that it's coming on from early morning (Vancouver is currently 3 hours later than us) to some time in the afternoon, when I almost never watch TV. I'm not particularly a sports fiend, but when the Beijing events were running right through prime time, you couldn't help occasionally seeing something. Ross Clark > > No coffee, however. > > > > Do the Pacific states get the same coverage we do? > > > We Californians are in the same time zone as Vancouver, but a lot of the > > coverage we see in prime time is tape from an earlier event. I can see many > > results on the Web before I watch them on TV. > > -- > > Skitt (AmE) |