From: Ka-In Yen on


On Jan 26, 4:05 pm, "Pmb" <peter102560_nos...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> "yen, ka-in" <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote in messagenews:1169773194.320952.105590(a)s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jan 17, 10:07 am, "Pmb" <peter102560_nos...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Can someone tell me please how this thread got started and what was meany
> >> by
> >> proving something was a "mass vector". At best inertial mass is a tensor.
> >> See MTW page 159. There is Exercise 5.4 "Inertial Mass Per Unit Volume".
> >> This is one of the things I've been studying over the years.
>
> > Please refer to:
> >http://www.geocities.com/redlorikee/mdb2.html
> You're assigning vector values where scalars belong. E.g. you have the
> "length" of a string, a scalar quantity, a vector value by assigning it a
> direction. However you chose the + direction for no reason and
> the -direction works just as well. You stated this
> "k/<a,b,c>=[k<a,b,c>]/[<a,b,c>^2]
> " as an equality whereas it is not. The right side is a well defined vector
> whereas the left side is not a vector at all.

Dear Pete,

Thank you for your comment. Inverse of a vector is widely
accepted by mathmaticians and physicists; Clifford proved
1/A = A/A^2 (where A is a vector).
According to the above equation, we have
k/<a,b,c>=[k<a,b,c>]/[<a,b,c>^2]

From: Pmb on

"Ka-In Yen" <yenkain(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
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>
>
> On Jan 26, 4:05 pm, "Pmb" <peter102560_nos...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> "yen, ka-in" <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote in
>> messagenews:1169773194.320952.105590(a)s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 17, 10:07 am, "Pmb" <peter102560_nos...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> Can someone tell me please how this thread got started and what was
>> >> meany
>> >> by
>> >> proving something was a "mass vector". At best inertial mass is a
>> >> tensor.
>> >> See MTW page 159. There is Exercise 5.4 "Inertial Mass Per Unit
>> >> Volume".
>> >> This is one of the things I've been studying over the years.
>>
>> > Please refer to:
>> >http://www.geocities.com/redlorikee/mdb2.html
>> You're assigning vector values where scalars belong. E.g. you have the
>> "length" of a string, a scalar quantity, a vector value by assigning it a
>> direction. However you chose the + direction for no reason and
>> the -direction works just as well. You stated this
>> "k/<a,b,c>=[k<a,b,c>]/[<a,b,c>^2]
>> " as an equality whereas it is not. The right side is a well defined
>> vector
>> whereas the left side is not a vector at all.
>
> Dear Pete,
>
> Thank you for your comment. Inverse of a vector is widely
> accepted by mathmaticians and physicists; Clifford proved
> 1/A = A/A^2 (where A is a vector).
> According to the above equation, we have
> k/<a,b,c>=[k<a,b,c>]/[<a,b,c>^2]

I didn't say that the inverse of a vector didn't exist. I said it wasn't a
vector.

Pete


From: Ka-In Yen on

On Jan 29, 9:01 am, "Pmb" <som...(a)somewhere.net> wrote:
> "Ka-In Yen" <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote in messagenews:1170030684.922322.140380(a)a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > Thank you for your comment. Inverse of a vector is widely
> > accepted by mathmaticians and physicists; Clifford proved
> > 1/A = A/A^2 (where A is a vector).
> > According to the above equation, we have
> > k/<a,b,c>=[k<a,b,c>]/[<a,b,c>^2]
> I didn't say that the inverse of a vector didn't exist. I said it wasn't a
> vector.

Dear Pete,
Everytime you find 1/A in a equation, you can replace it with
A / A^2. Assuming A = a<u>, where <u> is a unit vector, we
have 1/<u> = <u> / <u>^2 = <u>. This equation tells that the
direction of a vector, unit vector, is not changed by "division".
In 3D vector algebra, the direction of a vector is changed by -1
only.
1/A = 1/ (a<u>) = (1/a) <u>
1/A includes two informations: 1) magnitude 2) direction; so
it's a vector.

From: Pmb on

"Ka-In Yen" <yenkain(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
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>
> On Jan 29, 9:01 am, "Pmb" <som...(a)somewhere.net> wrote:
>> "Ka-In Yen" <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote in
>> messagenews:1170030684.922322.140380(a)a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> > Thank you for your comment. Inverse of a vector is widely
>> > accepted by mathmaticians and physicists; Clifford proved
>> > 1/A = A/A^2 (where A is a vector).
>> > According to the above equation, we have
>> > k/<a,b,c>=[k<a,b,c>]/[<a,b,c>^2]
>> I didn't say that the inverse of a vector didn't exist. I said it wasn't
>> a
>> vector.
>
> Dear Pete,
> Everytime you find 1/A in a equation, .....

I'd have to look up its meaning. What does this1/i mean?



> .....you can replace it with
> A / A^2. Assuming A = a<u>, where <u> is a unit vector, we
> have 1/<u> = <u> / <u>^2 = <u>. This equation tells that the
> direction of a vector, unit vector, is not changed by "division".
> In 3D vector algebra, the direction of a vector is changed by -1
> only.
> 1/A = 1/ (a<u>) = (1/a) <u>
> 1/A includes two informations: 1) magnitude 2) direction; so
> it's a vector.

More later

Pete


From: Ka-In Yen on
On Jan 30, 9:00 am, "Pmb" <som...(a)somewhere.net> wrote:
> "Ka-In Yen" <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message
>
> news:1170117823.060160.318280(a)h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 9:01 am, "Pmb" <som...(a)somewhere.net> wrote:
> >> "Ka-In Yen" <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote in
> >> messagenews:1170030684.922322.140380(a)a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Thank you for your comment. Inverse of a vector is widely
> >> > accepted by mathmaticians and physicists; Clifford proved
> >> > 1/A = A/A^2 (where A is a vector).
> >> > According to the above equation, we have
> >> > k/<a,b,c>=[k<a,b,c>]/[<a,b,c>^2]
> >> I didn't say that the inverse of a vector didn't exist. I said it wasn't
> >> a
> >> vector.
>
> > Dear Pete,
> > Everytime you find 1/A in a equation, .....
>
> I'd have to look up its meaning. What does this1/i mean?
>
> > .....you can replace it with
> > A / A^2. Assuming A = a<u>, where <u> is a unit vector, we
> > have 1/<u> = <u> / <u>^2 = <u>. This equation tells that the
> > direction of a vector, unit vector, is not changed by "division".
> > In 3D vector algebra, the direction of a vector is changed by -1
> > only.
> > 1/A = 1/ (a<u>) = (1/a) <u>
> > 1/A includes two informations: 1) magnitude 2) direction; so
> > it's a vector.
>
> More later

Dear Pete,

Do you have any further questions?



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