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From: Ka-In Yen on 22 Jan 2007 20:19 Ka-In Yen wrote: > Sam Wormley wrote: > > Ka-In Yen wrote: > > > Phineas T Puddleduck wrote: > > >> In article <1167958432.727642.316140(a)38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > > >> "Barry" <Sirdry(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Ka-In Yen wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Of course, I am more educated than Isaac Newton. Newton > > >>>> died in 1727. In 1843, the Quaternion Division Algebra was > > >>>> discovered by Hamilton. In 1876, Clifford discovered Clifford > > >>>> Algebras. So I am very sure that I am more educated than > > >>>> Isaac Newton. ^_^ > > >>> Standing on the Shoulders of Giants > > >>> > > >>> Barry > > >> If you guys have failed to see what is in front of you, its because of > > >> the giant chips standing on your shoulders.... > > > > > > You are ill-trained in 3D space: a giant chips standing on my > > > shoulders cannot block the view of front of me. > > > > > > > There is one big different--Newton was a lot smarter than Ka-In Yen. > > You cannot make that conclusion unless you can test > Newton and me in the SAME TIME. ^_^ > > > Mass, Area and Volume are not a vector quantities. > > Pressure = <Force> / <Area> > <Force> = Pressure * <Area> > > To get pressure, area HAS TO be a vector. Please refer to: > http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/pressure.html > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure In three dimensional vector algebra, force(F) and area(A) HAVE TO be vector. Pressure(p) is a scalar quantity. p=F / A =(F dot A) / A^2 =| F | cos(theta) / | A | (where theta is the angle between F and A) Area has 2 directions; choose one of its directions to keep cos(theta)>=0.
From: Ka-In Yen on 24 Jan 2007 20:25 On Jan 23, 9:19 am, "Ka-In Yen" <yenk...(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > Ka-In Yen wrote: > > Pressure = <Force> / <Area> > > <Force> = Pressure * <Area> > > To get pressure, area HAS TO be a vector. Please refer to: > >http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/pressure.html > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure > In three dimensional vector algebra, force(F) and area(A) HAVE > TO be vector. Pressure(p) is a scalar quantity. > > p=F / A > =(F dot A) / A^2 > =| F | cos(theta) / | A | > (where theta is the angle between F and A) > > Area has 2 directions; choose one of its directions to keep > cos(theta)>=0 Dear Sam, Puddleduck, Goose, Randy, Pete, Bilge, Do you have any further questions?
From: yen, ka-in on 25 Jan 2007 19:59 On Jan 17, 10:07 am, "Pmb" <peter102560_nos...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > Can someone tell me please how this thread got started and what was meany by > proving something was a "mass vector". At best inertial mass is a tensor. > See MTW page 159. There is Exercise 5.4 "Inertial Mass Per Unit Volume". > This is one of the things I've been studying over the years. Please refer to: http://www.geocities.com/redlorikee/mdb2.html
From: Phineas T Puddleduck on 25 Jan 2007 20:16 In article <1169773194.320952.105590(a)s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com>, "yen, ka-in" <yenkain(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote: > > > On Jan 17, 10:07 am, "Pmb" <peter102560_nos...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > Can someone tell me please how this thread got started and what was meany by > > proving something was a "mass vector". At best inertial mass is a tensor. > > See MTW page 159. There is Exercise 5.4 "Inertial Mass Per Unit Volume". > > This is one of the things I've been studying over the years. > > Please refer to: > http://www.geocities.com/redlorikee/mdb2.html Still haven't posted your meaning of A for a irregular shape on an irregularly curved surface have you.... -- Painius admits there is no evidence for flowing space... "There is every reason to believe that evidence will surface in favor of the CBB/FS, evidence that will be powerful incentive for science to search for more evidence, leading to deeper intuitive extrapolations, leading to searching for more evidence, and so on."
From: Pmb on 26 Jan 2007 03:05
"yen, ka-in" <yenkain(a)yahoo.com.tw> wrote in message news:1169773194.320952.105590(a)s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com... > > > On Jan 17, 10:07 am, "Pmb" <peter102560_nos...(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> Can someone tell me please how this thread got started and what was meany >> by >> proving something was a "mass vector". At best inertial mass is a tensor. >> See MTW page 159. There is Exercise 5.4 "Inertial Mass Per Unit Volume". >> This is one of the things I've been studying over the years. > > Please refer to: > http://www.geocities.com/redlorikee/mdb2.html > You're assigning vector values where scalars belong. E.g. you have the "length" of a string, a scalar quantity, a vector value by assigning it a direction. However you chose the + direction for no reason and the -direction works just as well. You stated this "k/<a,b,c>=[k<a,b,c>]/[<a,b,c>^2] " as an equality whereas it is not. The right side is a well defined vector whereas the left side is not a vector at all. Pete |