From: NoEinstein on
On Mar 22, 3:47 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2:12 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 21, 2:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Admit it, PD, you don't have the brain needed to explain anything.
> > Your only 'talent' is in sidestepping the logical requests of others,
> > and running-down those who do have a brain.  Give your opposing
> > 'theory' of what gravity is, or shut up. — NoEinstein —
>
> Sounds like a 3rd-grade "dare ya" to me. Have you regressed to the 3rd
> grade, John?
>
>
>
>
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> > > On Mar 21, 12:32 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 20, 11:02 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 20, 1:23 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > > >   I determined
> > > > > > these things by clear thinking and deductive reasoning.  “Making up”
> > > > > > stuff involves neither of those two.  — NE —
>
> > > > > On the contrary. Fiction writers use clear thinking and deductive
> > > > > reasoning when they compose fiction, just as you've done.
>
> > > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce:  If you suppose that what I have reasoned
> > > > about gravity is wrong, why don't you explain what you suppose the
> > > > "right" (ha!) explanation is?  — NE —
>
> > > I'd be happy to, John, but you've already declared that you don't read
> > > people's response to you.
> > > Why would I waste my time jumping through a hoop you really don't want
> > > anyone to jump through?
>
> > > If you want the "right explanation" about gravity but don't want
> > > people telling you about it here, would a decent book on the subject
> > > serve?
>
> > > PD- Hide quoted text -
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PUT UP OR SHUT UP, PD!!!!! — NoEinstein —
From: NoEinstein on
On Mar 22, 3:54 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 3:48 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > On Mar 22, 3:40 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 22, 3:20 pm, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 22, 1:12 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Mar 21, 2:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Admit it, PD, you don't have the brain needed to explain anything..
> > > > > Your only 'talent' is in sidestepping the logical requests of others,
> > > > > and running-down those who do have a brain.  Give your opposing
> > > > > 'theory' of what gravity is, or shut up. — NoEinstein —
>
> > > > Hey, that sounds like an idea.
>
> > > > Explain how you think gravity works, PD.
> > > > Make it short and simple so a public school
> > > > kid could understand it.
>
> > > > Do it for both of us.
>
> > > > john
>
> > > For example, use an analogy of a bowling ball and a tub of water.
> > > Explain to the students the bowling ball represents the Earth and the
> > > water represents the aether. Place the bowling ball into the tub of
> > > water. Remove the bowling ball. Note to the students that a void does
> > > not exist in the water. Explain how the water applies pressure towards
> > > the bowling ball.
>
> > > Explain if the bowling ball consisted of millions of individual
> > > particles separated by springs the water would apply pressure on and
> > > throughout the bowling ball.
>
> > > The pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth is
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> > Why don't you apply for a job as a... 'substitute' science teacher.
> > You keep wishing to substitute your won't-hold-water science for my
> > True Science.  — NoEinstein —
>
> A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave.
>
> The pressure associated with the aether displaced by a massive object
> is gravity.
>
> Atomic clocks tick based upon the aether pressure in which they exist.
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.... a "unified theory" that won't hold water! — NE —
From: PD on
On Mar 24, 2:53 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 3:47 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On Mar 22, 2:12 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 21, 2:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Admit it, PD, you don't have the brain needed to explain anything.
> > > Your only 'talent' is in sidestepping the logical requests of others,
> > > and running-down those who do have a brain.  Give your opposing
> > > 'theory' of what gravity is, or shut up. — NoEinstein —
>
> > Sounds like a 3rd-grade "dare ya" to me. Have you regressed to the 3rd
> > grade, John?
>
> > > > On Mar 21, 12:32 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 20, 11:02 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Mar 20, 1:23 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > >   I determined
> > > > > > > these things by clear thinking and deductive reasoning.  “Making up”
> > > > > > > stuff involves neither of those two.  — NE —
>
> > > > > > On the contrary. Fiction writers use clear thinking and deductive
> > > > > > reasoning when they compose fiction, just as you've done.
>
> > > > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce:  If you suppose that what I have reasoned
> > > > > about gravity is wrong, why don't you explain what you suppose the
> > > > > "right" (ha!) explanation is?  — NE —
>
> > > > I'd be happy to, John, but you've already declared that you don't read
> > > > people's response to you.
> > > > Why would I waste my time jumping through a hoop you really don't want
> > > > anyone to jump through?
>
> > > > If you want the "right explanation" about gravity but don't want
> > > > people telling you about it here, would a decent book on the subject
> > > > serve?
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> > > > PD- Hide quoted text -
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> PUT UP OR SHUT UP, PD!!!!!  — NoEinstein —

I did already, John, are you incapable of reading a direct reply to
your own posts?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/dddaa8a5e9593908

PD
From: mpc755 on
On Mar 24, 3:35 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 3:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 22, 2:59 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 21, 1:14 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 21, 12:41 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 20, 8:46 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Mar 20, 1:45 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Mar 19, 6:11 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Dear mpc755:  NEVER have I said, nor implied, that ether is at rest!
>
> > > > > > And I am saying that is a problem with your theory.
>
> > > > > > You can not account for gravity if the aether were at rest with
> > > > > > respect to a massive object.
>
> > > > > > Aether Displacement does not requiring a flowing aether.
>
> > > > > > The pressure associated with the aether displaced by a massive object
> > > > > > is gravity.
>
> > > > > Dear mpc755: And you, Sir, continue to push your own errant notions
> > > > > rather than accept my clearly-expressed explanation that's at the
> > > > > start of the present post.  Rather than continuing to run-down my New
> > > > > Science, I recommend that you make a '+new post' that outlines your
> > > > > reasoning regarding the mechanism of gravity; your ether displacement
> > > > > notions; and your... "mather"—none of which hold water.  You might be
> > > > > enlightened to learn how quickly your post ceases to get any readers.
> > > > > — NoEinstein —
>
> > > > Mentioning water is an appropriate analogy.
>
> > > > An object at rest with respect to water displaces the water. When you
> > > > take the object out of the water is there a void in the water where
> > > > the object was? No, the water was applying a pressure towards the
> > > > object. If the object consisted of individual particles separated by
> > > > water then the pressure of the water displaced by the object would be
> > > > exerted throughout the object.
>
> > > > The pressure associated with the aether displaced by a massive object
> > > > is gravity.
>
> > > > Motion (with respect to the aether) and gravity (pressure associated
> > > > with the aether displaced by a massive object) determine the aether
> > > > pressure on and throughout an object.
>
> > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" -
> > > > Albert Einstein
>
> > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > > matter is the aether's state of displacement.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > Dear mpc755:  You, Sir, are like a broken record with the needle stuck
> > > in the groove.  Saying the same thing over and over won't convince
> > > anyone—certainly not me—that your INVENTED science is true.  Please
> > > take your remarks elsewhere.  — NoEinstein —
>
> > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave.
>
> > The pressure associated with the aether displaced by a massive object
> > is gravity.
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> > Aether Displacement is a unified theory.- Hide quoted text -
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> Dear mpc755: I've already explained to you several times why that C-60
> was deflected by the slits.  You have no way of knowing that a "wave"
> of any kind was responsible.  

A wave is responsible because of the interference pattern created.

> Please find a link to that experiment so
> I can be more specific about the physics involved.  

Find your own link.

> But note: This
> 'discussion' is off subject of the present post—gravity.  — NoEinstein
> —

From: mpc755 on
On Mar 24, 3:43 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 3:40 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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> > On Mar 22, 3:20 pm, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 22, 1:12 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:> On Mar 21, 2:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Admit it, PD, you don't have the brain needed to explain anything.
> > > > Your only 'talent' is in sidestepping the logical requests of others,
> > > > and running-down those who do have a brain.  Give your opposing
> > > > 'theory' of what gravity is, or shut up. — NoEinstein —
>
> > > Hey, that sounds like an idea.
>
> > > Explain how you think gravity works, PD.
> > > Make it short and simple so a public school
> > > kid could understand it.
>
> > > Do it for both of us.
>
> > > john
>
> > For example, use an analogy of a bowling ball and a tub of water.
> > Explain to the students the bowling ball represents the Earth and the
> > water represents the aether. Place the bowling ball into the tub of
> > water. Remove the bowling ball. Note to the students that a void does
> > not exist in the water. Explain how the water applies pressure towards
> > the bowling ball.
>
> > Explain if the bowling ball consisted of millions of individual
> > particles separated by springs the water would apply pressure on and
> > throughout the bowling ball.
>
> > The pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth is
> > gravity.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> More of you B. S., mpc755.  Ether flows THROUGH the Earth to replace
> the ether lost by radiant energy into space.  That downward flowing
> ether is what causes the mass-proportional force of gravity.  Your
> 'force' of gravity appears to be VOLUME dependent—which doesn't
> compute.  — NoEinstein —

Aether is displaced based on mass per volume. The more massive an
object is the less aether it contains the more aether it displaces.
The more aether the object displaces the more pressure exerted by the
aether displaced by the object.