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From: paparios on 25 Mar 2010 14:52 On 25 mar, 14:37, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 2:34 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 25 mar, 14:29, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 25, 2:27 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 25 mar, 14:16, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Experiment #1 below will provide evidence of Aether Displacement. > > > > > > > Then do the experiment. Until then, you've got nothin'. You know the > > > > > > steps you have to follow to do that? > > > > > > > By the way, scientists don't usually claim to know what results will > > > > > > come from an experiment until the experiment is actually done. > > > > > > I know what the results will be when the experiments are performed. > > > > > Wow!!!! Can you give us the winning numbers of the next lottery??? > > > > > Wait....we know the answer!!!!....you are an idiot!!! > > > > > Miguel Rios > > > > I know what the results will be because I understand the physics of > > > nature. > > > Really? So, if that is true, why you whine every day about the > > experiment and results of QD showing that: > > > ..."We report a delayed choice quantum eraser experiment of the type > > proposed by Scully and Drühl (where the choice is made randomly by a > > photon at a beam splitter). The experimental results demonstrate the > > possibility of delayed determination of particlelike or wavelike > > behavior via quantum entanglement. > > The which-path or both-path information of a quantum can be marked or > > erased by its entangled twin even after the registration of the > > quantum."... > > > Miguel Rios > > Because that 'understanding' of nature is incorrect. If you read the > post below you would understand why. > There is nothing there showing why Yoon-Ho Kim, Rong Yu, Sergei P. Kulik, Yanhua Shih and Marlan O. Scully 'understanding' of nature is incorrect. Actually you do not have any working theory...just the insane illusion of being known as the Aether Displacement guy. We are afraid you will be better know as the Aether Displacement idiot instead. Miguel Rios
From: PD on 25 Mar 2010 14:54 On Mar 25, 1:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 2:25 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 1:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 25, 2:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Experiment #1 below will provide evidence of Aether Displacement. > > > > > Then do the experiment. Until then, you've got nothin'. You know the > > > > steps you have to follow to do that? > > > > > By the way, scientists don't usually claim to know what results will > > > > come from an experiment until the experiment is actually done. > > > > I know what the results will be when the experiments are performed. > > > Then you, sir, are no scientist, nor will you ever be one. > > Experiments are performed to consult nature on what the answer is. > > > Since you claim to be able to read the future, by knowing the outcome > > of experiments before they are performed, you should be able to > > provide a compelling physical explanation of how you know the future, > > without relying on absurd nonsense like the future determining the > > past. > > I know what the results will be because I understand the physics of > nature. Nice. So not only can you see the future, but you are omniscient, as well. Scientists do experiments to find out answers from nature that they do not know yet. This is the reason to do the experiments. Since you already know all the answers about how nature works, then you already know the results from all the experiments not yet performed. Then there is no need to perform the experiments, as it would be a waste of money and effort to find an answer you already have. I'm sure you'll find that funding agencies will see no need to perform the experiment, for the very same reason. Now all you have to do is convince everyone that you have divine knowledge, so that they don't have to waste their time doing experiments anymore, and they should just be asking you unanswered questions. Thank you, by the way, for finally toppling over the edge. PD
From: mpc755 on 25 Mar 2010 15:03 On Mar 25, 2:52 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 25 mar, 14:37, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:34 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 25 mar, 14:29, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:27 pm, "papar...(a)gmail.com" <papar...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 25 mar, 14:16, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Experiment #1 below will provide evidence of Aether Displacement. > > > > > > > > Then do the experiment. Until then, you've got nothin'. You know the > > > > > > > steps you have to follow to do that? > > > > > > > > By the way, scientists don't usually claim to know what results will > > > > > > > come from an experiment until the experiment is actually done.. > > > > > > > I know what the results will be when the experiments are performed. > > > > > > Wow!!!! Can you give us the winning numbers of the next lottery??? > > > > > > Wait....we know the answer!!!!....you are an idiot!!! > > > > > > Miguel Rios > > > > > I know what the results will be because I understand the physics of > > > > nature. > > > > Really? So, if that is true, why you whine every day about the > > > experiment and results of QD showing that: > > > > ..."We report a delayed choice quantum eraser experiment of the type > > > proposed by Scully and Drühl (where the choice is made randomly by a > > > photon at a beam splitter). The experimental results demonstrate the > > > possibility of delayed determination of particlelike or wavelike > > > behavior via quantum entanglement. > > > The which-path or both-path information of a quantum can be marked or > > > erased by its entangled twin even after the registration of the > > > quantum."... > > > > Miguel Rios > > > Because that 'understanding' of nature is incorrect. If you read the > > post below you would understand why. > > There is nothing there showing why Yoon-Ho Kim, Rong Yu, Sergei P. > Kulik, Yanhua Shih and Marlan O. Scully 'understanding' of nature is > incorrect. > Actually you do not have any working theory...just the insane illusion > of being known as the Aether Displacement guy. > > We are afraid you will be better know as the Aether Displacement idiot > instead. > > Miguel Rios When Experiment #1 is performed it will show Aether Displacement to be correct. In the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment When the downgraded photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, the original photons momentum is maintained. This means the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. We will describe one of the photons as being the 'up' photon and the other photon as being the 'down' photon. One of the downgraded photons travels either the red or blue path towards D0 and the other photon travels either the red or blue path towards the prism. There are physical waves in the aether propagating both the red and blue paths. The aether waves propagating towards D0 interact with the lens and create interference prior to reaching D0. The aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels prior to reaching D0. There are actually two interference patterns being created at D0. One associated with the 'up' photons when they arrive at D0 and the other interference pattern associated with the 'down' photons when they arrive at D0. Both 'up' and 'down' photons are reflected by BSa and arrive at D3. Since there is a single path towards D3 there is nothing for the wave in the aether to interfere with and there is no interference pattern and since it is not determined if it is an 'up' or 'down' photon being detected at D3 there is no way to distinguish between the photons arriving at D0 which interference pattern each photon belongs to. The same for photons reflected by BSb and arrive at D4. Photons which pass through BSa and are reflected by BSc and arrive at D1 are either 'up' or 'down' photons but not both. If 'up' photons arrive at D1 then 'down' photons arrive at D2. The opposite occurs for photons which pass through BSb. Photons which pass through BSa and pass through BSb and arrive at D1 are all either 'up' or 'down' photons. If all 'up' photons arrive at D1 then all 'down' photons arrive at D2. Since the physical waves in the aether traveling both the red and blue paths are combined prior to D1 and D2 the aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels. Since all 'up' photons arrive at one of the detectors and all 'down' photons arrive at the other an interference pattern is created which reflects back to the interference both sets of photons are creating at D0. Figures 3 and 4 here: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9903/9903047v1.pdf Show the interference pattern of the 'up' and 'down' photons. If you were to combine the two images and add the peaks together and add the valleys together you would have the interference pattern of the original photon. This is evidence the downgraded photon pair maintain the original photons momentum and have opposite angular momentums. Nothing is erased. There is no delayed choice. Physical waves in the aether are traveling both the red and blue paths and when the paths are combined the waves create interference which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Experiments which are evidence of Aether Displacement: Experiment #1: Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Have the photons reflected by mirror Ma interact with BSca and have the photons reflected by mirror Mb interact with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to 'go back' and determine the interference patterns created at D0. Experiment #2: Alter the experiment. When the downgraded photon pair are created, have each photon interact with its own double slit apparatus. Have detectors at one of the exits for each double slit apparatus. When a photon is detected at one of the exits, in AD, the photon's aether wave still exists and is propagating along the path exiting the other slit. When a photon is not detected at one of the exits, the photon 'particle' along with its associated aether wave exits the other slit. Combine the path the aether wave the detected photon is propagating along with the path of the other photon and its associated aether wave. An interference pattern will still be created. This shows the aether wave of a detected photon still exists and is able to create interference with the aether wave of another photon, altering the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Your inability to physically explain the following is evidence you feign hypothesis: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter.
From: mpc755 on 25 Mar 2010 15:04 On Mar 25, 2:54 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 1:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:25 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 25, 1:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 2:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Experiment #1 below will provide evidence of Aether Displacement. > > > > > > Then do the experiment. Until then, you've got nothin'. You know the > > > > > steps you have to follow to do that? > > > > > > By the way, scientists don't usually claim to know what results will > > > > > come from an experiment until the experiment is actually done. > > > > > I know what the results will be when the experiments are performed. > > > > Then you, sir, are no scientist, nor will you ever be one. > > > Experiments are performed to consult nature on what the answer is. > > > > Since you claim to be able to read the future, by knowing the outcome > > > of experiments before they are performed, you should be able to > > > provide a compelling physical explanation of how you know the future, > > > without relying on absurd nonsense like the future determining the > > > past. > > > I know what the results will be because I understand the physics of > > nature. > > Nice. So not only can you see the future, but you are omniscient, as > well. > It is simply an understanding of the physics of nature which allows me to know what will occur physically in nature when the experiments are performed. In the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment When the downgraded photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, the original photons momentum is maintained. This means the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. We will describe one of the photons as being the 'up' photon and the other photon as being the 'down' photon. One of the downgraded photons travels either the red or blue path towards D0 and the other photon travels either the red or blue path towards the prism. There are physical waves in the aether propagating both the red and blue paths. The aether waves propagating towards D0 interact with the lens and create interference prior to reaching D0. The aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels prior to reaching D0. There are actually two interference patterns being created at D0. One associated with the 'up' photons when they arrive at D0 and the other interference pattern associated with the 'down' photons when they arrive at D0. Both 'up' and 'down' photons are reflected by BSa and arrive at D3. Since there is a single path towards D3 there is nothing for the wave in the aether to interfere with and there is no interference pattern and since it is not determined if it is an 'up' or 'down' photon being detected at D3 there is no way to distinguish between the photons arriving at D0 which interference pattern each photon belongs to. The same for photons reflected by BSb and arrive at D4. Photons which pass through BSa and are reflected by BSc and arrive at D1 are either 'up' or 'down' photons but not both. If 'up' photons arrive at D1 then 'down' photons arrive at D2. The opposite occurs for photons which pass through BSb. Photons which pass through BSa and pass through BSb and arrive at D1 are all either 'up' or 'down' photons. If all 'up' photons arrive at D1 then all 'down' photons arrive at D2. Since the physical waves in the aether traveling both the red and blue paths are combined prior to D1 and D2 the aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels. Since all 'up' photons arrive at one of the detectors and all 'down' photons arrive at the other an interference pattern is created which reflects back to the interference both sets of photons are creating at D0. Figures 3 and 4 here: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9903/9903047v1.pdf Show the interference pattern of the 'up' and 'down' photons. If you were to combine the two images and add the peaks together and add the valleys together you would have the interference pattern of the original photon. This is evidence the downgraded photon pair maintain the original photons momentum and have opposite angular momentums. Nothing is erased. There is no delayed choice. Physical waves in the aether are traveling both the red and blue paths and when the paths are combined the waves create interference which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Experiments which are evidence of Aether Displacement: Experiment #1: Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Have the photons reflected by mirror Ma interact with BSca and have the photons reflected by mirror Mb interact with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to 'go back' and determine the interference patterns created at D0. Experiment #2: Alter the experiment. When the downgraded photon pair are created, have each photon interact with its own double slit apparatus. Have detectors at one of the exits for each double slit apparatus. When a photon is detected at one of the exits, in AD, the photon's aether wave still exists and is propagating along the path exiting the other slit. When a photon is not detected at one of the exits, the photon 'particle' along with its associated aether wave exits the other slit. Combine the path the aether wave the detected photon is propagating along with the path of the other photon and its associated aether wave. An interference pattern will still be created. This shows the aether wave of a detected photon still exists and is able to create interference with the aether wave of another photon, altering the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Your inability to physically explain the following is evidence you feign hypothesis: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter.
From: BURT on 25 Mar 2010 15:12
On Mar 25, 11:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 2:06 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 1:01 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 25, 2:00 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 25, 12:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 25, 1:53 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 25, 12:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I see no reason why you would cut and paste a repetitive post like > > > > > > that, which is not at all responsive to the remarks I just made to > > > > > > you, unless it is just important to you to be able to talk over people > > > > > > to hear yourself speak. > > > > > > I'm waiting for you to describe what occurs physically in nature in > > > > > the list below. > > > > > Yes, I know you're waiting. I've told you that your demands will be > > > > ignored. > > > > Because you can't answer the questions. > > > Because I'm not interested in answering your questions > > Because you can't answer the questions. > > In the image on the right here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > When the downgraded photon pair are created, in order for there to be > conservation of momentum, the original photons momentum is maintained. > This means the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. > We will describe one of the photons as being the 'up' photon and the > other photon as being the 'down' photon. One of the downgraded photons > travels either the red or blue path towards D0 and the other photon > travels either the red or blue path towards the prism. > > There are physical waves in the aether propagating both the red and > blue paths. The aether waves propagating towards D0 interact with the > lens and create interference prior to reaching D0. The aether waves > create interference which alters the direction the photon travels > prior to reaching D0. There are actually two interference patterns > being created at D0. One associated with the 'up' photons when they > arrive at D0 and the other interference pattern associated with the > 'down' photons when they arrive at D0. > > Both 'up' and 'down' photons are reflected by BSa and arrive at D3. > Since there is a single path towards D3 there is nothing for the wave > in the aether to interfere with and there is no interference pattern > and since it is not determined if it is an 'up' or 'down' photon being > detected at D3 there is no way to distinguish between the photons > arriving at D0 which interference pattern each photon belongs to. The > same for photons reflected by BSb and arrive at D4. > > Photons which pass through BSa and are reflected by BSc and arrive at > D1 are either 'up' or 'down' photons but not both. If 'up' photons > arrive at D1 then 'down' photons arrive at D2. The opposite occurs for > photons which pass through BSb. Photons which pass through BSa and > pass through BSb and arrive at D1 are all either 'up' or 'down' > photons. If all 'up' photons arrive at D1 then all 'down' photons > arrive at D2. Since the physical waves in the aether traveling both > the red and blue paths are combined prior to D1 and D2 the aether > waves create interference which alters the direction the photon > travels. Since all 'up' photons arrive at one of the detectors and all > 'down' photons arrive at the other an interference pattern is created > which reflects back to the interference both sets of photons are > creating at D0. > > Figures 3 and 4 here:http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9903/9903047v1.pdf > Show the interference pattern of the 'up' and 'down' photons. If you > were to combine the two images and add the peaks together and add the > valleys together you would have the interference pattern of the > original photon. This is evidence the downgraded photon pair maintain > the original photons momentum and have opposite angular momentums. > > Nothing is erased. There is no delayed choice. Physical waves in the > aether are traveling both the red and blue paths and when the paths > are combined the waves create interference which alters the direction > the photon 'particle' travels. > > Experiments which are evidence of Aether Displacement: > > Experiment #1: > > Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters > BSca and BScb. Have the photons reflected by mirror Ma interact with > BSca and have the photons reflected by mirror Mb interact with BScb. > Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, > D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through > BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and > propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the > photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the > corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference > pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the > photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will > form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons > are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, > and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of > detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even > need to be created in order to 'go back' and determine the > interference patterns created at D0. > > Experiment #2: > > Alter the experiment. When the downgraded photon pair are created, > have each photon interact with its own double slit apparatus. Have > detectors at one of the exits for each double slit apparatus. When a > photon is detected at one of the exits, in AD, the photon's aether > wave still exists and is propagating along the path exiting the other > slit. When a photon is not detected at one of the exits, the photon > 'particle' along with its associated aether wave exits the other slit. > Combine the path the aether wave the detected photon is propagating > along with the path of the other photon and its associated aether > wave. An interference pattern will still be created. This shows the > aether wave of a detected photon still exists and is able to create > interference with the aether wave of another photon, altering the > direction the photon 'particle' travels. > > Your inability to physically explain the following is evidence you > feign hypothesis: > > - The future determining the past > - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing > - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair > - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits > simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having > a change in momentum. > - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move > > The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: > > - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate > aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits > - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends > past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced > by the plates forces the plates together > - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. > When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its > spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, > the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. > - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate > aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits > - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by > matter.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Sometimes the waves go away for electrons. Mitch Raemsch |