From: Rowland McDonnell on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> After reading here, and seeing the (excellent) results from an Epson
> 4490, I've ordered a V500 from Amazon. Looks pretty good to me. Not the
> cheapest but seems to do all the things I need it to do, and Anne can
> set it usefully against tax, as she's buying it and it's going to be
> used largely for digitising her lecture slides.
>
> USB2 should be plenty fast enough.

It is, if you get the top speed from it. But 1.2 Mb/s and 12 Mb/s are
both speeds offered by USB 2, and plenty of USB 2 kit doesn't go faster
than USB 1.1 speeds.

But if you're buying a scanner and it says USB 2, it's broken if it
won't work at 480 Mb/s. Which is hi speed now, apparently (old hi speed
was 12 Mb/s with 480 Mb/s being full speed. Terminology changed at some
point).

Rowland.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:
>
> > In my case, I could never stop OS 7.6 from crashing, or indeed OS 8.1,
> > or especially 9.2. I have never looked back since I installed OS 10.1.
>
> I didn't find OS 8.1 to be *that* crashy (7 was horrid)

The most reliable System version I used was System 6.0.7, followed
closely by MacOS 7.6.1.

System 7.1 was pretty good too.

> and my
> experience of 9.2 on a TonkaBook and a TiBook was better than 8.1.
> 'Normal' programs were pretty solid. But yes, when they encountered
> something on the Web that caused Netscape or IE, or finally Mozilla 3 to
> lock up, then the machine wouldn't stay up much longer. And it was a
> good idea to do regular sweeps with Norton to fix glitches which would
> show up in the file system.

No need to do that, ever, in my experience. Norton was always trouble,
anyway.

No, what I did was ran Disk First Aid after every forced reboot and
avoided any trouble at all by doing so.

Nothing but a crash of the OS would cause disc problems prior to OS X in
my experience - certainly, glitches simply did not `just turn up'.

Oh yes you can be sure that I checked and re-checked quite often.
Believe me, I'm paranoid about my computers.

> But since 10.2, I've not looked back. Infinitely more robust, and the
> file system has been completely solid.

I only had trouble with the file system under System 7.x due to OS
crashes; or the one occasion I tried running a freeware de-frag utility,
which was my own fault.

Aside from that, it always proved completely solid pre OS X, did the Mac
filing system.

Utterly so - every bit as good as what we've got now in my experience.

> The applications have been more
> competent too, the browsers especially. Better all round than the
> Classic applications,

Aside from the fact that many of us find that there are things we used
to be able to do prior to OS X and can't do any more because the
software won't allow it.

Many abilties have been taken away from me due to OS X.

> with the possible single exception of WordPerfect
> 3.5e, which I still miss a bit. But there are enough decent WPs for 10
> to make that not too serious.

I still keep a Classic-running Mac on my desk as well as my 10.6 Intel
iMac, because there are jobs I need to do that cannot be done with
available MacOS X applications.

(there's a search and replace job I do on text files in pre OS X that
I'm sure can be done in Perl or whatnot, but can't be done using
available MacOS X apps. I use a Classic app - the abilities of which
are unmatched by anything in OS X)

Rowland.


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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:

> Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In my case, I could never stop OS 7.6 from crashing, or indeed OS 8.1,
> > > or especially 9.2. I have never looked back since I installed OS 10.1.
> >
> > I didn't find OS 8.1 to be *that* crashy (7 was horrid) and my
> > experience of 9.2 on a TonkaBook and a TiBook was better than 8.1.
> > 'Normal' programs were pretty solid. But yes, when they encountered
> > something on the Web that caused Netscape or IE, or finally Mozilla 3 to
> > lock up, then the machine wouldn't stay up much longer. And it was a
> > good idea to do regular sweeps with Norton to fix glitches which would
> > show up in the file system.
>
> Well, I started with a Performa 5200 and OS 7.5. That was absolutely
> awful. I did find OS 8.1 not too bad really.

It was System 7.5.1 you started with.

PowerMacs were awful things to use until MacOS 7.6.1 came out. 7.6.1,
not 7.6. Dealt with the Type 11s.

> Then I got an iMac DV, which came with 9.04, and I spent the first two
> days trying to stop that crashing at startup. It did get better as OS 9
> evolved,

MacOS 9 was always unreliable when I used it as a `real' OS (rather than
as Classic) - the worst MacOS version I've ever used. Mucked up UI and
horribly unreliable and slow and inefficient. Awful.

> but it was never as stable as 8.1 was for me (I never got to
> 8.6). Almost immediately OS 10 was superior in many ways, and I only
> spent a few days trialling 10.1 before switching over.

[snip]

10.1 was missing so many required abilities and essential features it
was horrible to use. But it beat MacOS 9 because it was at least more
reliable.

MacOS X was painful to use until 10.2 came out. It wasn't nice to use
until 10.4 came out. And it's still not as good at pre OS X in some
ways - some abilities have been taken away and never replaced...

Rowland.

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From: James Dore on
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:27:04 -0000, Peter Ceresole
<peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> It is somewhere in the chain mk14 -> zx81 -> Electron(for two weeks) ->
>> bbc-b -> Spectrum -> Atari ST -> Mac.
>
> Mine is a lot simpler- ZX81, CPC6128, MSDOS PC, Mac. Plus a smattering
> of portables- one an IBM which was nice but delicate, and got because
> the mac portable of the time was so slow I couldn't stand it, even
> though I already used a Mac on the desktop. Best laptop of all being the
> NC200... Used for years.

Mine's a bit curious: Apple IIe [*] - BBC model B - Compaq 386 Portable
[*] - IBM PS/2 model 80 [*] - Psion MC400 Word - Macs... (starting with
LCIII)

Items marked [*] were borrowed (long term) from British Steel....

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From: Peter Ceresole on
James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

> Psion MC400 Word

I always thought they were lovely machines, but far too expensive for
me- remember, at that time I had a CPC6128. When the NC200 came along,
and it was running Protext in ROM, AND it was cheap... No-brainer.
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