From: Peter Ceresole on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> until I got a TonkaBook running 9.2, which was pleasant and stable with
> SpeedDoubler and RAMDoubler.

Ooops. You couldn't run SpeedDoubler with 9.2 because Apple had finally
removed the last bits of 68xxx code from the OS- SpeedDoubler worked by
caching the corresponding sections of PPC code at startup, so
short-circuiting the Apple emulator that normally did the job before OS
9.

Jeez, the things you remember... Another world...

And the Amstrad 8256 I mentioned running Protext... Was a 8512. My main
machine at the Beeb. My PA had a Tulip, a nice MSDOS machine, but she
had to use Wordstar or Wordperfect. Either way, Protext on the cheaper
machine was really better. And whatever printer we had to use, I could
write a Protext driver that accessed all the fun features and custom
characters...
--
Peter
From: Andy Hewitt on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, I started with a Performa 5200 and OS 7.5. That was absolutely
> > awful. I did find OS 8.1 not too bad really.
>
> I started with a 6100/60 and OS 7.1.2, which was the first PPC-specific
> OS, and was rather solid. But it was kind of slow. 7.5.1 was smoother,
> but pretty damn unstable. And the 6100 was a slow machine anyway,
> whatever you did. I ran SpeedDoubler, which really did work well and did
> exactly what it claimed, but the first Mac I used that felt decently
> quick was a beige G3. That was a lovely machine, and with OS8.1,
> SpeedDoubler, RAMDoubler (mainly for its file handling which still
> hasn't been equalled for me in its total simplicity when doing
> incremental backups) and some extra RAM (can't remember how much) that
> Mac was beautifully quick and very stable, and lasted me several years
> until I got a TonkaBook running 9.2, which was pleasant and stable with
> SpeedDoubler and RAMDoubler. Then a TiBook that I started out by
> dual-booting into 9.2 or 10.2. Very quickly, I found myself preferring
> 10.2.

I only miss Chuck Yeager and a submarine game I had.

> > Yes, even Text Edit isn't too bad now, it has enough features to make
> > basic WP needs possible.
>
> The latest version of TextEdit is excellent, and can probably handle
> most people's WP needs in full- including simple Word files.

For sure, I opened a .docx file a few days ago that someone couldn't
open with Word on Windows (they're still on 2003).

> > However, as I've said before, I *really* miss Protext.
>
> Oh yes. I always will. I used it in Amsdos, on the CPC 6128, in CP/M on
> an 8256, in Amigados on a borrowed Amiga, for an article about Protext
> for an Amiga magazine (it was extremely quick on that machine, but I
> never quite got used to the ways of the file system) and then in MSDOS 5
> and DESQView, which was honestly the best version; terrifically quick
> and full of genuinely useful features like the WYSIWYG graphical view.
> What a smashing text editor it was... This is not counting Protext in
> ROM on the NC200 which was one of the most practical writer's laptops I
> ever encountered. Mono dot matrix screen that was so much better
> outdoors than any more 'modern' display. Backlit at the press of a key.
> And on that slow ZX-81 machine, Protext was still fast. The machine was
> small and light enough to carry on my bike, cheap enough not to worry
> about losing it or breaking it. Battery life was extremly long- many
> many hours. I remember writing scripts and outlines on a bench in Hyde
> Park, in the sunshine. I wouldn't want to do that on Anne's MBP, for any
> number of reasons.

I went up to Protext 6.5 (the last version I believe) on my Atari ST. I
don't think I've come across anything that could do a search and replace
as fast as that could.

> Now I use Pages '09; I no longer do that much writing, as such, and that
> does me fine.

I'm still on Pages '08, I mostly do page layout stuff, and that does for
me (I still can't find anything in '09 that looks like it's an upgrade
for me).

--
Andy Hewitt
<http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: Jim on
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote:

> Well, I started with a Performa 5200 and OS 7.5. That was absolutely
> awful. I did find OS 8.1 not too bad really.

LC475, 6400/200, iMac DV400, PowerMac G4 MDD DP1.25, iBook G3 600, Intel
iMac 20" and Mac Pro 2x2.8 Quad core. Also a PowerBook G4 is in there
somewhere, but I can't remember where. And a Cube, thanks to Zoara.

Jim
--
"Microsoft admitted its Vista operating system was a 'less good
product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious
understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some
slightly damp tablecloths." http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/
From: Woody on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:


> This is not counting Protext in
> ROM on the NC200 which was one of the most practical writer's laptops I
> ever encountered. Mono dot matrix screen that was so much better
> outdoors than any more 'modern' display. Backlit at the press of a key.
> And on that slow ZX-81 machine, Protext was still fast.

Should that be ZX81, or Z80? I am not familliar with the NC200.


--
Woody
From: Peter Ceresole on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Should that be ZX81, or Z80? I am not familliar with the NC200.

You're right- it was a Z80. To be honest, I'd never really cared about
the insides. It Just Worked. The only thing I did that was odd was to
make a battery pack for it using a Maplins holder and D cells, so I
could just use it forever with the backlight on in places like cutting
rooms. The internals lasted a long time, but I hardly ever had to change
those D cells.

Jeez, it was so long ago, or at least it feels that way. I think I still
have one somewhere (I used to have two, one as a spare, they were that
cheap). But it has broken down. At that price thery weren't exactly tank
built and mine had a fairly hard life being schlepped about in my
pannier.
--
Peter
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