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From: SteveH on 8 Mar 2010 13:58 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > (he can be stubborn sometimes, especially if he doesn't > fully understand things) All is now explained. -- SteveH
From: T i m on 8 Mar 2010 14:32 On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:06:29 +0000, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: <snip> >It really is all a question of energy. In 10 years I've noticed the >drop. Everybody does. It barely seems possible when you're 50, but it >happens. It's not horrible, just a fact [1]. And your dad will simply >prefer stuff he knows because however steam and brass it is, it's just >easier to grasp. I know I do... Understood and at 53 I'm already noticing I don't have the drive to do stuff I would have started and finished the first instant I could. Some of that is down to my eyes not being what they were [1], part is learning that most things I felt were important can actually wait for another day and the rest I guess is the old age bit. But the thing with Dad is I'm doing all the work for him, from getting the iPod and associated bits to ripping the CD's and putting them on, all he has to do it choose the album / track and listen. OK, maybe the iPod is not quite so instant (as in the action) of putting the CD and a blank cassette in I guess but if you include getting the blank cassette and having to go through *every* CD at real speed (and rewinding the tape to find the end of side 1) etc etc. > >[1] And as the policemen get younger, So it seems. > the women really do get more >beautiful every day. All women? Mine is just starting to show her age but then she's recently qualified for her bus pass. ;-) Cheers, T i m [1] I didn't realise what an impact it would make having enjoyed 'very good' un-assisted vision to my mid 40's.
From: Peter Ceresole on 8 Mar 2010 15:48 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > > the women really do get more > >beautiful every day. > > All women? All of them get more beautiful yes. Of course it depends on where they started out; not all women are beautiful, any more than all men being handsome, but what's there gets better... The fifty plus year olds, who are almost invisible to younger men, turn out to be quite smashing. Been around the block, know what's what. I always thought that women got more attractive with age, and now I'm quite certain of it. Every now again there's someone quite exceptional, a seventy or eighty year old who's a total knockout. If I see one like that in the street, I go over and tell her how great she looks. Why not? I have white hair, I'm clearly no threat, and I don't hang around. Just tell them. So far they've always been really pleased. It's only fair exchange; they've given me great pleasure by being themselves, and I give them pleasure by telling them how great they are. -- Peter
From: T i m on 8 Mar 2010 17:34 On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 20:48:47 +0000, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: >T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > >> > the women really do get more >> >beautiful every day. >> >> All women? > >All of them get more beautiful yes. You old smoothie you. ;-) > Of course it depends on where they >started out; not all women are beautiful, any more than all men being >handsome, but what's there gets better... Hmm. >The fifty plus year olds, who >are almost invisible to younger men, turn out to be quite smashing. You sound surprised? Did you think they were aliens or witches or something? ;-) > Been >around the block, know what's what. My second / current Mrs (or Mrs 'Right Now' as I call her <g>) was a fit 40 when I met her at the tender age of 33. It was nice to be with someone who knew her own mind and was self sufficient / motivated for a change. It was (is) also nice to have someone who was game to go along with many of my mad ideas ... like building the kit car, clay shooting, motorcycling, tandem / camping touring, canoeing, power kite flying, etc etc. > I always thought that women got more >attractive with age, and now I'm quite certain of it. I can't say I *prefer* the wrinkles or knowing she's in pain with her back most of the time or suffering with the arthritis in her hands and neck. I especially don't like that all that slows her up when she's knocking up concrete for me. ;-( > >Every now again there's someone quite exceptional, a seventy or eighty >year old who's a total knockout. How old is Joanna Lumley now, 63? > If I see one 'One'? > like that in the street, I >go over and tell her how great she looks. Why not? Why not indeed. Is this in England though? > I have white hair, >I'm clearly no threat, <checks> Ah, you are ok, Harold Shipman and Hitler had dark hair. >and I don't hang around. Sorta hit-n-run you mean? And thank goodness for the Sturmey Archer 5 speed! > Just tell them. So far >they've always been really pleased. It's only fair exchange; they've >given me great pleasure by being themselves, and I give them pleasure by >telling them how great they are. Or they call for security. But joking aside, I know what you mean but tempting though it might be I don't know if I would try it these days (even when I'm 80 or with white hair). Cheers, T i m
From: Rowland McDonnell on 10 Mar 2010 12:02
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 23:01:01 +0000, > real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: > > > > >> I suppose > >> because I generally understand these things I forget how daunting it > >> may appear to others. > > > >Not so much daunting as completely incomprehensible - do remember that > >computery stuff is completely arbitrary, so you can't use common sense > >or anythign you've learnt elsewhere to work out what *THIS* particular > >computery thing is doing. Computers are hard because you've *GOT* to > >have the instructions, on account of their behaviour not being subject > >to the sort of analysis that permits one to make sense of the real > >world. > > Hmm, I'll grant you for non GUI stuff like DOS / Cmd line it's not > intuitive No PC interface that I've met is intuitive - GUI PC stuff most certainly isn't anything of the sort. > but do you think even the GUI stuff is unusable without a > manual? I certainly can't use almost all the OS X apps I've met because they have no adequate documentation. > How many kids today have read the manual for their phones or > computers / consoles but are using them happily? <shrug> > Or maybe you are talking about the computers themselves, or the OS's > where I grant you n00bs can get themselves screwed up by clicking on > the wrong thing (I took an MSN message yesterday from someone telling > me all their desktop icons had gone on XP and how to fix it.I said > 'pass' as they are fiddlers and bring such things on themselves. > Turned out they fixed it themselves by re-clicking the 'Show Desktop > Icons' option, something I'd never done nor seen in all my years with > XP). What? No, I'm talking about the UIs. Unintuitive. [snip] I can't cope with any more of this. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |