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From: Zoran Kolic on 19 Jun 2010 11:40 > Torrents are trouble. Avoid them, if practical. Your ISP may be > throttling them, although I can't see what difference the version of > Ubuntu would make. > However, if a Windows client works, then ask yourself if you need Linux > for other things, or whether Windows will suit your needs. (I have two > machines at home, one with Win, one with Debian Squeeze (testing). The > Win machine is set up for those rare times when Debian isn't right for > the job.) Huh! It is much easier when one makes proper visualisation of the protocols involved into the task. Peer2peer is not the devil, but the way to do things. I cannot imagine downloading debian dvd in one act. What if the line drops? Seriously, original poster failed to show details. Lenny is rock stable and there is no way to freeze it other than clogging i/o. For downloading torrents, isp makes bandwidth rules. Also for uploading. On some spots on mother earth it is not ligit to run server aside ones paid to the same isp. Since the port on which torrent app communicates lives in high range, I doubt it is the problem. My conclusion would be: some time has to be spent to learn ins and outs of debian first. Next, to learn how torrent works, including reading rfc or whatever similar. Last, choose the application people use and help on forums or irc channel. Best reagards Zoran -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100619145132.GA972(a)faust
From: Mark Allums on 20 Jun 2010 00:30 On 6/19/2010 9:51 AM, Zoran Kolic wrote: >> Torrents are trouble. Avoid them, if practical. Your ISP may be >> throttling them, although I can't see what difference the version of >> Ubuntu would make. > > Huh! It is much easier when one makes proper visualisation > of the protocols involved into the task. Peer2peer is not the > devil, but the way to do things. I cannot imagine downloading > debian dvd in one act. What if the line drops? I agree, in an ideal universe, torrents are a great innovation, and should be the standard method. Alas, in many places, by many ISPs, torrents are punished, throttled to the point of uselessness and worse. I always download my Debian DVDs by http: protocol transfer. (I have no alternative.) If the connection is dropped, it can easily be resumed, because I use a download manager and I download from a mirror that supports resuming. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C1D9749.3070906(a)allums.com
From: ABS Doug on 20 Jun 2010 00:50 > My conclusion would be: some time has to > be spent to learn ins and outs of debian first. Next, to learn > how torrent works, including reading rfc or whatever similar. > Last, choose the application people use and help on forums or > irc channel. Or just used Windows. I mean it works & it would seem there are a fair amount of people that really don't like requests for help on the Linux E-mail "help" lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTikmCoCpimVIJJrgO2zJMLAQxwS2wn1WvESHHFX5(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Mihira Fernando on 20 Jun 2010 01:00 On 06/20/2010 09:51 AM, Mark Allums wrote: > > I agree, in an ideal universe, torrents are a great innovation, and > should be the standard method. Alas, in many places, by many ISPs, > torrents are punished, throttled to the point of uselessness and worse. Do they throttle torrents when protocol encryption is enabled as well ? My isp here does the same thing with unencrypted torrents but no issues at all when protocol encryption is turned on. Mihira. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C1D9DE7.608(a)gmail.com
From: Mark Allums on 20 Jun 2010 01:10
On 6/19/2010 11:49 PM, Mihira Fernando wrote: > On 06/20/2010 09:51 AM, Mark Allums wrote: >> >> I agree, in an ideal universe, torrents are a great innovation, and >> should be the standard method. Alas, in many places, by many ISPs, >> torrents are punished, throttled to the point of uselessness and worse. > Do they throttle torrents when protocol encryption is enabled as well ? > My isp here does the same thing with unencrypted torrents but no issues > at all when protocol encryption is turned on. > > Mihira. > > They can, whether they do is a different story. They can't in theory (supposedly) tell what is going through a VPN, but in practice they have found they really can, after all. Some ISPs are starting to throttle all VPNs and encrypted traffic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C1DA229.1000706(a)allums.com |