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From: Gavin on 8 Jul 2010 19:21 On 2010-07-07 21:59:11 +0100, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) said: > I have a new iMac and yes, it's gorgeous. Lovely and quick... > > But I wanted to use the Transfer Assistant, or whatever it's called. I > can do the transfers by hand but I've been reading here that the auto > transfer via Firewire works really well. > > However, my old iMac is running 10.4.11. The new iMac tells me it can't > find a version of OSX on the old machine. Izzat right? Is 10.4.11 too > ancient to register? Having read all the replies, I dont have anything to add, but a question. If you migrate, wont you simply drag all your "clutter" over to a new machine, even the most tidy of us will accululate all sorts of rubbish in the time we use our computers... So isnt a more time consuming, but clean manual migration the way to go? Or am I missing something? I imagine that doing it for a network of machines it makes sense, but for a single machine?? -- Gavin. ACSP 10.5 http://www.stoof.co.uk http://www.twitter.com/gavin_wilby
From: SM on 8 Jul 2010 19:49 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I'm sure, but it's proved totally impossible here; in fact, compared to > setting up several previous Macs, this one has been a nightmare. Like > trying to get the Bluetooth keyboard to work on the iG5. Also > impossible. I had problems getting an Apple Bluetooth keyboard working with an iPhone - I had to un-pair it with a laptop first. Is yours paired with the new iMac? Stuart -- cut that out to reply
From: David Empson on 8 Jul 2010 20:09 Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote: > On 2010-07-08 16:43:45 +0100, zoara said: > > > Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> Peter James <pfjames2000(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> That's strange because my old G5 iMac was running OS 10.4.11 and I > >>> transferred my files from that to this new iMac running 10.6.4 using > >>> Tranfer Assistant without any trouble at all. > >>> I just needed to buy a 8 pin firewire cable and "bob's your uncle" > >>> it > >>> was done in about 2 hours. No sweat. > >> > >> Well, the Firewire connection worked fine, in that the FW symbol > >> appeared on the old iMac and bounced slowly round the screen, but > >> Transfer Assistant told me that it couldn't find a copy of OSX on the > >> other (old) iG5. > > Could this be a PPC / Intel thing? > > I've used Migration Assistant to go from PPC to Intel. Ah, but via Time > Machine and not the system disk... I've done it directly, many times. Most recently, from a PowerBook G4 running 10.4.11 to a Mac Mini (Intel) running 10.6.0 or 10.6.3 (don't recall whether it was upgraded before or after the migration, but most likely to be 10.6.0). -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: David Empson on 8 Jul 2010 21:02 Gavin <gwilbyREMOVE(a)stoof.co.uk> wrote: > On 2010-07-07 21:59:11 +0100, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) said: > > > I have a new iMac and yes, it's gorgeous. Lovely and quick... > > > > But I wanted to use the Transfer Assistant, or whatever it's called. I > > can do the transfers by hand but I've been reading here that the auto > > transfer via Firewire works really well. > > > > However, my old iMac is running 10.4.11. The new iMac tells me it can't > > find a version of OSX on the old machine. Izzat right? Is 10.4.11 too > > ancient to register? > > Having read all the replies, I dont have anything to add, but a question. > > If you migrate, wont you simply drag all your "clutter" over to a new > machine, even the most tidy of us will accululate all sorts of rubbish > in the time we use our computers... I've migrated for my last two computer upgrades: PowerBook G4 to Macbook Pro in 2007, and to a new MacBook Pro in 2010. I started fresh on the PowerBook G4 (in 2002), apart from copying my documents over from the previous computer. I had to reinstall all my applications, and I remember it taking a lot of effort and time to get everything back the way I wanted. I was very happy when Apple introduced Migration Assistant, as it meant I avoided a lot of work for setting up subsequent new computers. For my subsequent two migrations: 1. PowerBook G4 (Tiger) to 2007 MacBook Pro (Tiger) (PowerBook completely died - wouldn't even turn on. I had backups and was able to extract the hard drive for migration via an external drive enclosure.) This brought along all of my Mac OS 9 system software and applications, which were no use on the Intel Mac. Easily dealt with by trashing two folders after the migration. I may have had to manually reinstall one or two Mac OS X applications but otherwise everything just kept working. 2. 2007 MacBook Pro (Snow Leopard) to 2010 MacBook Pro (Snow Leopard) (Old MacBook Pro suffered the NVIDIA 8600M defect, so its display stopped working but it was otherwise OK. I wasn't able to do anything on it which required the user interface, short of using Screen Sharing, but that wasn't enabled. I got lucky and the NVIDIA worked one more time, which gave me a chance to turn on Screen Sharing. Subsequent operation revealed that there is an Intel GMA950 buried inside the chipset which got activated when the NVIDIA stopped working, but it didn't have any connection to the internal or external displays. After I got the new computer, the old one was repaired under extended warranty, and got sold. Still working a couple of months later.) Everything went fine, no additional clutter to delete. I had to reinstall Little Snitch, and deal with reactivation of one application (FileMaker Pro 9 - they gave me a replacement licence key which defeated the activiation mechanism). So, what have I ended up with in the way of "clutter"? There is nothing installed in the way or extensions or drivers that might have an actual impact on the operation of the computer. I do have: - Several older third party Mac OS X applications, some of which I haven't used for a while. I simply ignore them, as they aren't big enough to worry about. - At least one big application I can't use any more (CodeWarrior Pro 6), which I haven't got around to deleting because disk space hasn't been an issue. - Preference files for lots of things I haven't used for a while. None of the previous three items matter. I have a fair number of files I'm not using, but they only waste a relatively small amount of disk space (my music collection is far bigger than my Applications folder), and have no material impact on the performance of the computer. They waste a little time if I do a full backup or disk repair, but I don't care. This one has a slight chance of being a problem: - Old preferences imported over to a new computer, rather than starting with default preferences for each application. (See my thooughts on that below.) By migrating, I saved myself probably a week of evenings chasing up all the software I actually did need to reinstall, some of which would have been a major pain due to needing to repeat a chain of upgrades, and random subsequent delays when I discovered some other occasionally used application which I needed again. I also saved myself the time of readjusting the preferences for every single application so I had them the way I wanted again. I had more important things to do. If you really want to reduce application clutter, and reinstall the applications instead, you might consider doing a partial migration of just the user accounts, but leave the applications behind. Not migrating your user account and manually copying just your documents means that you have to deal with exporting informaiton from the database files maintained by the old system (e.g. Address Book and iCal) and importing on the new one, recreating mail accounts, importing mail, etc. All your preferences will be reset to defaults. I happen to like my preferences. If something really goes wrong, I can selectively delete preferences for one application (after confirming that is the cause). -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Rowland McDonnell on 12 Jul 2010 00:13 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I have a new iMac and yes, it's gorgeous. Lovely and quick... > > But I wanted to use the Transfer Assistant, or whatever it's called. I > can do the transfers by hand but I've been reading here that the auto > transfer via Firewire works really well. > > However, my old iMac is running 10.4.11. The new iMac tells me it can't > find a version of OSX on the old machine. Izzat right? Is 10.4.11 too > ancient to register? When I got my new iMac, it was 10.6 and I synced it with the 10.4.11 4G5. ....very very slowly, because I happily assumed that a gigabit Ethernet link would get the job done about as fast as FW, if not faster... Pah. Regarding the syncing: ISTR some trouble getting it to work in the first place. I do recall that the instructions with the syncing software were wrong and I had to ring up Apple to find out how to do it. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
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