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From: Peter Ceresole on 7 Jul 2010 16:59 I have a new iMac and yes, it's gorgeous. Lovely and quick... But I wanted to use the Transfer Assistant, or whatever it's called. I can do the transfers by hand but I've been reading here that the auto transfer via Firewire works really well. However, my old iMac is running 10.4.11. The new iMac tells me it can't find a version of OSX on the old machine. Izzat right? Is 10.4.11 too ancient to register? -- Peter
From: David Kennedy on 7 Jul 2010 19:30 Peter Ceresole wrote: > I have a new iMac and yes, it's gorgeous. Lovely and quick... > > But I wanted to use the Transfer Assistant, or whatever it's called. I > can do the transfers by hand but I've been reading here that the auto > transfer via Firewire works really well. > > However, my old iMac is running 10.4.11. The new iMac tells me it can't > find a version of OSX on the old machine. Izzat right? Is 10.4.11 too > ancient to register? When you run Migration Assistant it asks you to connect via Firewire then do a restart in Target Disc mode. I would have thought everything would go through fairly easily after that point. As a Target Disc surely the system is fairly irrelevant? -- David Kennedy http://www.anindianinexile.com
From: David Empson on 7 Jul 2010 19:49 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I have a new iMac and yes, it's gorgeous. Lovely and quick... > > But I wanted to use the Transfer Assistant, or whatever it's called. I > can do the transfers by hand but I've been reading here that the auto > transfer via Firewire works really well. > > However, my old iMac is running 10.4.11. The new iMac tells me it can't > find a version of OSX on the old machine. Izzat right? Is 10.4.11 too > ancient to register? No. There maybe limits on how old the OS is on the source machine, but I have migrated a few computers from 10.4 to 10.6 without problems. (I've also done 10.3 to 10.5 and 10.2 to 10.4, so the general rule appears to be "at least the previous two major versions".) Not sure what is going on in your case. You might try running Disk Utility and do a "repair disk" on your old iMac. If there are any other Firewire devices connected, remove them from the system to avoid potential confusion. If you have multiple partitions on the internal hard drive of the old iMac, perhaps Migration Assistant is looking at the wrong one. Another option open to you is a migration via Ethernet, which may produce different results. Somewhat slower than Firewire, and it requires a different procedure to set up the connection. To support this, both computers must be running Mac OS X 10.4.11 or later (the source computer must not be running a newer major version than the destination computer), and at least some of the post-10.4.11 software updates must have been installed: there was a "Migration and DVD/CD Sharing" update which added support for network migration in 10.4.11. The computers must have compatible network configurations (only likely to be an issue if either computer has been set up with manually configured network settings). To set it up, run Migration Assistant on BOTH computers. It is a good idea to quit all other applications on both computers first. On the source (old) computer, you want to select the option to migrate "To another Mac". On the destination (new) computer, you want to select the option to migrate "From another Mac", then choose the network option (which is a "Use Network" button in 10.5 and 10.4.11 versions of Migration Assistant, more prominently displayed as a choice in the 10.6 version). One of the computers will display a security code, which you need to type in on the other computer. Subsequent behaviour is the same as if you were using Firewire (but it might have better luck locating the system on the old Mac). -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: David Empson on 7 Jul 2010 20:31 David Kennedy <davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote: > Peter Ceresole wrote: > > I have a new iMac and yes, it's gorgeous. Lovely and quick... > > > > But I wanted to use the Transfer Assistant, or whatever it's called. I > > can do the transfers by hand but I've been reading here that the auto > > transfer via Firewire works really well. > > > > However, my old iMac is running 10.4.11. The new iMac tells me it can't > > find a version of OSX on the old machine. Izzat right? Is 10.4.11 too > > ancient to register? > > When you run Migration Assistant it asks you to connect via Firewire > then do a restart in Target Disc mode. I would have thought everything > would go through fairly easily after that point. As a Target Disc surely > the system is fairly irrelevant? Not if you want to use Migration Assistant. Each version of Migration Assistant includes a set of rules to deal with converting the files and copying only appropriate files from each supported version of Mac OS X. It has to be able to deal with the appropriate version of the user account database, work out which files in the System, Library and Applications folders are part of the operating system and which ones are third party additions, may need to convert some files in Library folders or the hidden Unix folders, etc. You can't migrate from a system version for which Apple has not provided the necessary translation rules. This probably means you can't migrate to recent versions of Mac OS X from very old versions (unless you go through a mid-range version temporarily), but I don't know the exact cutoff in each case. It also means you can't migrate from a newer system version to an older one, because the rules in the older version of Migration Assistant don't know how to deal with the newer system (and other parts of the older system can't cope with the newer database and preference files created by later system versions). You can't use Migration Assistant to migrate from anything which doesn't contain a bootable Mac OS X system (or a clone of one, or a Time Machine backup of one). You can of course do a simple file copy with cloning software or Finder (usual limitations apply) but this requires a lot more manual work to do things like recreate user accounts, deal with permission issues, change user IDs if there is a conflict, etc. Migration Assistant is much nicer if you want to resaonably cleanly copy user accounts (with all settings intact) and/or applications between two Macs. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Peter Ceresole on 8 Jul 2010 02:35 David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Not if you want to use Migration Assistant. Thanks David. It's what I suspected. Target Mode worked fine, but from 10.4.11 to 10.6.4, Migration Assistant didn't want to play. But I'm not in a hurry; I'll just have to do it manually, as I always have in the past. -- Peter
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