From: JosephKK on 3 Apr 2010 05:02 On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:26:44 -0700 (PDT), Greegor <greegor47(a)gmail.com> wrote: >JL > Of course we never bought another Autodesk product, and never >will. > >Is there an alternative product that can touch it? MicroStation.
From: Andrew on 4 Apr 2010 00:02 "George Jefferson" <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote in message news:hp5ubb$itv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > Or the 100Mhz version is up to snuff but overpriced? is that not an > option? In fact, it seems like the most likely case. It is been a well > used marketing ploy to bring in extra revenues. It is funny to watch people who feel "cheated" by "overpriced" Rigol units. Rigol sells unit X with capabilities Y at price Z. The only thing they have no right to do is to sell unit that does not work as advertized. It may or may not work better. If you do not like the price you do not buy it. buy somebody else's or not buy at all. End of story. Rigol does not owe you or anybody else anything. If they want to add 10MHz limiter and sell this new 10MHz unit, it is their choice, not yours and definitely not mine. > For example, it would be like paying for an upgrade to first class when > all seats are first class. Of course to get you to buy the upgrade they > tell you that coach sucks and is for losers and only intelligent and > beautiful people go first class. Bla-bla-bla. -- Andrew
From: Vladimir Vassilevsky on 4 Apr 2010 00:26 Andrew wrote: > "George Jefferson" <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote in message > news:hp5ubb$itv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >>Or the 100Mhz version is up to snuff but overpriced? is that not an >>option? In fact, it seems like the most likely case. It is been a well >>used marketing ploy to bring in extra revenues. > > > It is funny to watch people who feel "cheated" by "overpriced" Rigol units. > If you do not like the price you do not buy it. buy somebody else's or not > buy at all. End of story. How about selling an "upgrade" to Rigol scopes? VLV
From: Andrew on 4 Apr 2010 01:07 "Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:GfydnXxS1eQniSXWnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > > > Andrew wrote: >> "George Jefferson" <George(a)Jefferson.com> wrote in message >> news:hp5ubb$itv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >>>Or the 100Mhz version is up to snuff but overpriced? is that not an >>>option? In fact, it seems like the most likely case. It is been a well >>>used marketing ploy to bring in extra revenues. >> >> >> It is funny to watch people who feel "cheated" by "overpriced" Rigol >> units. >> If you do not like the price you do not buy it. buy somebody else's or >> not buy at all. End of story. > > How about selling an "upgrade" to Rigol scopes? Sure. I *believe* everyone who has not signed "not to sell an upgrade" agreement with Rigol has the right to do it, because he does not violate any contracts. Again, I am not talking about current laws. -- Andrew
From: Andrew on 4 Apr 2010 01:10
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:1pg9r5tes24ml91m59jag6jna6rctpmvg0(a)4ax.com... >>Except with software you agree to a EULA prohibiting you from doing that >>yourself. No such agreement exists when purchasing a scope from eBay, >>hence >>it is "not illegal" to do so unless you were intending to defraud (you >>were >>the one who suggested not being illegal trumps the moral argument over >>over-clocking ADCs). >> >>Mark. >> > > Lawyers certainly do attack software users for misuse of their > products, wherever they purchased them. Autodesk did it to us; > fortunately we had done nothing wrong and their lawyer was stupid to > boot. When instruments become software-driven, they may well be > subject to the legal provisions that protect software. Only if you signed an agreemnt to that effect during purchase. -- Andrew |