From: Vladimir Vassilevsky on


Andrew wrote:
> "Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:W6ydndXx5v9eLyXWnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>
>>>>>>Hypothetically, what would happen if there were no patent or copyright
>>>>>>laws?
>>>
>>>World would be a better place.
>>
>>They would have to send bandits or use whatever other non-economic means
>>of competition. Problem is not in the patents, problem is with the people.
>
>
> "They" could do it right now.


And they do it sometimes. Patent system is an attempt to civilize that.

> It is not related to the patents.

Of course. Problem is with people.

>>>17 years in US, for starters, is way too long. Patents often used to lock
>>>competitors out, thus artificially decresing efficiency.
>>
>>Write a complaint to the World League for sexual reforms?
>
>
> Patent laws is not the biggest problem US is facing right now.
>
> As for the options:
>
> - Use technical means to keep trade secrets rather than legal and sell you
> product outside of US.
> - Elect someone with at least a crude understanding of the economy.
> - Write a complaint to <put one's favorite place here> if it makes one feel
> better.
> - Wrap oneself in white sheets and slowly crawl to the graveyard.


Those are minor technical details. You are missing the main point of the
current paradigm: making more stuff is not a goal. The goal is making
everybody happy.

VLV
From: Joel Koltner on
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:q90kr5pda1mtti9pea5c7tqmao0u9qvfpi(a)4ax.com...
> Rigol is like
> someone who used to leave their front door unlocked, until someone
> wandered in and stole something, so now they have to lock it.

I think it's more like Rigol sells houses, and you bought a two-bedroom house
(although you're aware they also sell three-bedroom houses)... and one day you
notice (or Dave Jones metnions that) there's another door in your home.
There's no lock on that door, no sign on it saying, "keep out!," etc. Your
ne'er-do-well liberal democrat son moves back home after flunking out of his
liberal studies program at the local college and you get to thinking... having
that kid spend his nights in his own room rather than sleeping on the couch in
the living room every night would be nice... I wonder what's behind that door?

:-)

From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:17:56 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
>news:q90kr5pda1mtti9pea5c7tqmao0u9qvfpi(a)4ax.com...
>> Rigol is like
>> someone who used to leave their front door unlocked, until someone
>> wandered in and stole something, so now they have to lock it.
>
>I think it's more like Rigol sells houses, and you bought a two-bedroom house
>(although you're aware they also sell three-bedroom houses)... and one day you
>notice (or Dave Jones metnions that) there's another door in your home.
>There's no lock on that door, no sign on it saying, "keep out!," etc. Your
>ne'er-do-well liberal democrat son moves back home after flunking out of his
>liberal studies program at the local college and you get to thinking... having
>that kid spend his nights in his own room rather than sleeping on the couch in
>the living room every night would be nice... I wonder what's behind that door?
>
>:-)

Not entirely the same. It costs money to build rooms, but it costs
nothing to enable IP. Both have market value.

But why didn't they do the 50 and even 20 MHz bandwidth limits
digitally? They have 1G samples/second to work with. There are some
saturation issues that might be best handled with analog limiting, but
this *is* a cheap scope.

John

From: Phil Hobbs on
On 4/5/2010 2:23 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 11:17:56 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
> <zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "John Larkin"<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
>> news:q90kr5pda1mtti9pea5c7tqmao0u9qvfpi(a)4ax.com...
>>> Rigol is like
>>> someone who used to leave their front door unlocked, until someone
>>> wandered in and stole something, so now they have to lock it.
>>
>> I think it's more like Rigol sells houses, and you bought a two-bedroom house
>> (although you're aware they also sell three-bedroom houses)... and one day you
>> notice (or Dave Jones metnions that) there's another door in your home.
>> There's no lock on that door, no sign on it saying, "keep out!," etc. Your
>> ne'er-do-well liberal democrat son moves back home after flunking out of his
>> liberal studies program at the local college and you get to thinking... having
>> that kid spend his nights in his own room rather than sleeping on the couch in
>> the living room every night would be nice... I wonder what's behind that door?
>>
>> :-)
>
> Not entirely the same. It costs money to build rooms, but it costs
> nothing to enable IP. Both have market value.
>
> But why didn't they do the 50 and even 20 MHz bandwidth limits
> digitally? They have 1G samples/second to work with. There are some
> saturation issues that might be best handled with analog limiting, but
> this *is* a cheap scope.
>
> John
>

One possible reason is that with an analogue bandwidth limit, signals
that would be aliased get attenuated before sampling.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
From: Phil Hobbs on
On 4/5/2010 2:17 PM, Joel Koltner wrote:
> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
> message news:q90kr5pda1mtti9pea5c7tqmao0u9qvfpi(a)4ax.com...
>> Rigol is like
>> someone who used to leave their front door unlocked, until someone
>> wandered in and stole something, so now they have to lock it.
>
> I think it's more like Rigol sells houses, and you bought a two-bedroom
> house (although you're aware they also sell three-bedroom houses)... and
> one day you notice (or Dave Jones metnions that) there's another door in
> your home. There's no lock on that door, no sign on it saying, "keep
> out!," etc. Your ne'er-do-well liberal democrat son moves back home
> after flunking out of his liberal studies program at the local college
> and you get to thinking... having that kid spend his nights in his own
> room rather than sleeping on the couch in the living room every night
> would be nice... I wonder what's behind that door?
>
> :-)
>

That more or less happened to the landlord of the apartment my #2
daughter shared with 2 friends at the University of Toronto: due to a
code violation, he wasn't able to rent out one of the rooms in the
apartment, so he gave them a discount instead.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net