From: Phil Allison on 4 Apr 2010 22:43 "Fred Abse" John Larkin wrote: > >> Once a scope is in my posession, converting it to 100 MHz does Rigol no >> economic harm. Dave's posting detailed hacking directions to the world >> does them real harm, and they may have legal recourse. > > That's the crux of the issue. ** It is a pile of absolute bollocks. Dave has simply exposed a scam and there is nothing Rigol can do legally. ...... Phil
From: Phil Allison on 4 Apr 2010 22:52 "Fred Abse" > > Read John's post again. The economic harm is done when someone buys the > 50MHz version, intending to modify it, when in the absence of the > disseminated information, they would have bought the more expensive > instrument. ** Rigol were keeping customers in the dark about the real situation and exploiting it for profit - otherwise known as PULLING A SCAM !! Now that customers are informed they can make a choice based on knowledge. Rigol were obtaining benefit from a deception and that is criminal behaviour in any place outside China. > The moral thing would be to have announced that "We have discovered that > the two instruments are electrically identical, and it is possible to > modify the 50MHz version, in firmware, to behave identically to the 100MHz > version. We are not disclosing how to do this. We invite comments from the > manufacturer." ** Absolute drivel. The moral thing to do when one uncovers a scam going on is to blow it wide open. Been there and done that many times. ...... Phil
From: krw on 4 Apr 2010 23:03 On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:40:53 +0800, "Andrew" <anbyvbel(a)yahoo.com> wrote: ><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message >news:2pcir5p9qc741bnhuh13blhtdoom8ptm7h(a)4ax.com... >> On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 07:31:58 +0800, "Andrew" <anbyvbel(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Clueless. > >I am humbled by the depth of your arguments. > Maybe if you could figure out how your Usenet thingy works...
From: Jon Kirwan on 4 Apr 2010 23:53 On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 14:31:52 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:23:54 +1100, "David L. Jones" ><altzone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>For those who thought Rigol may bin the scopes to get 50MHz and 100MHz >>models, and that they aren't actually identical hardware and firmware, I've >>been informed that Rigol have finally admitted this to an irate customer who >>contacted them about the issue. >> >>Partial Quote from Rigol : >>"The firmware of the instruments is made >>to enable capability based on the version purchased just like any software >>licensed product you would buy." >> >>Betcha they would never have admitted that before it was all exposed a few >>weeks ago. >> >>Dave. > >Too bad that, with all this ranting, this thread is missing a couple >of interesting technical issues re: the varicap bandwidth limiter and >the compromises it forces. I think that _is_ interesting. Discuss it, please. Jon
From: David L. Jones on 5 Apr 2010 00:42
John Larkin wrote: > On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:23:54 +1100, "David L. Jones" > <altzone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> For those who thought Rigol may bin the scopes to get 50MHz and >> 100MHz models, and that they aren't actually identical hardware and >> firmware, I've been informed that Rigol have finally admitted this >> to an irate customer who contacted them about the issue. >> >> Partial Quote from Rigol : >> "The firmware of the instruments is made >> to enable capability based on the version purchased just like any >> software licensed product you would buy." >> >> Betcha they would never have admitted that before it was all exposed >> a few weeks ago. >> >> Dave. > > Too bad that, with all this ranting, this thread is missing a couple > of interesting technical issues re: the varicap bandwidth limiter and > the compromises it forces. I find that funny considering it was you who started the ranting and also continued it ad nauseam. So why don't you just stop ranting and actually discuss that technical aspect if it interests you? Or is this just your way of trying to weasel out of the rather silly hole you found yourself in? :-> Dave. -- --------------------------------------------- Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast: http://www.eevblog.com |