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From: T i m on 15 Feb 2010 14:23 On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:40:03 +0000, g.john(a)PLUG.btinternet.com (Gareth John) wrote: >T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > >> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:00:55 +0000, Tim Streater >> <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >Nearest lamppost is prolly two or three miles away. >> >> You still in Africa then? >> >Narnia? According to my AA Pocket Mappa Mundi they are quite close. ;-) T i m
From: Rowland McDonnell on 16 Feb 2010 07:35 Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: [snip] > > Of course they could afford the truck - it's just that the boss > > wanted to spend the money on something else. Whisky, women, flash cars, > > bribes (all African leaders use bribes as a matter of routine[1]). > > Normal African leadership methods, I expect. > > Umm.. no, just not actually available from the current budget. The national finances could have afforded it, which is what I was alluding to. The fact that the national finances are run in a corrupt and incompetent fashion[1] is why that particular project didn't have the budget it required. [snip] > > Anyway, point is: corrupt honours system means `less needing to be spent > > on money bribes' which is a Good Thing, until the revolution comes and > > all that old stuff's swept away by The People. > > Long time before that happens. It's been happening a lot - but the old order retains power very tenaciously. The Roman church really is just a continuation of the Roman empire, for example. The old Roman aristocracy were the first set of Roman church bigwigs, if you were doubting that idea. That's why the Pope's church is so keen on wealth and power and not much interested in the teachings of Christ. Rowland. (who's got something bad to say about ALL organized god-bothering, but happens to know more about the Pope's lot than most due to his upbringing.) [1] Here as in Kenya - except that here, we're better at actually getting something useful out of the engineering projects. The money that's purely wasted tends to be spent on `advisors' and so on... -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 16 Feb 2010 07:35 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > What; the one that relies on the 'the sky is big and aeroplanes are > > > small' principle? Which, in Africa, is fairly sound... > > > > There's a man who's never heard of air routes. > > Well... Waiting for a flight at Veranasi, I've sat in the tower with the > airport manager; no radar coverage, just one person for most of the > time... It's smack under the airway that goes from Europe to the far > East, with a flight maybe every few minutes. It's all done by procedural > handling, by radio, and by separating the aircraft as they enter the > local airspace. By height if they're a bit close or converging, but > mainly checking that they're separated adequately as they enter and > announce themselves. The pilots are informed about who's ahead of them > and how many minutes behind they are. They check themselves too, from > what they have been told on the last sector they traversed. 'Speedbird > 301. Thank you Veranasi. That is a very *interesting* separation'. But > it seemed to work rather well, as the controller was intelligent and > relaxed and there was no more traffic than he could handle. Yes, of course, and of course none of them ever makes the slightest error, and this system is of course every bit as fail-safe as the formal ones. Of course. And of course low traffic density is a perfect defence against all possible problems. Of course. [snipo] Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Peter Ceresole on 16 Feb 2010 07:47 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > Yes, of course, and of course none of them ever makes the slightest > error, and this system is of course every bit as fail-safe as the formal > ones. Well it *is* a formal system. And there hasn't been a midair over that part of India for ever so long. So yes; it works, because traffic density, while being quite reasonably high on the airway, is in general low enough to allow for mistakes, when they occur. Even in India, the sky is big. And aeroplanes continue to be small. -- Peter
From: Rowland McDonnell on 16 Feb 2010 08:03
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: [snip] > Even in India, the sky is big. And aeroplanes continue to be small. No, I was making the point about Africa, not India. The sky is big and aeroplanes are small - and yet, aeroplanes do seem to collide often enough. So you can repeat your mind-numbing matra as often as you like, but... What was it killed Yuri Gagarin? Mmm? *HIS* aeroplane was smaller than any decently-sized airliner. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |