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From: Arthur Machlas on 25 Jun 2010 17:10 On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Celejar <celejar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:53:09 -0400 > vr <debian-user(a)iotk.net> wrote: > >> On 6/25/2010 3:27 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote: >> > Might be that, but how could my ISP guess that I'm using a router? >> > >> >> The first few characters of a MAC address are registered to a company. > > True, but many companies make both routers and regular NICs. Â Is there > any way to tell from the MAC whether we're dealing with, say, a Linksys > router as opposed to one of their NICs? > My ISP provided me with a "router" / modem, however the router is of the extremely handicapped variety. Thus, I had to go into the interface of the router/modem and tell it to act only as a gateway. The only device that ever connects to that gateway is my linksys router, so the ISP should have no way of telling how many devices are actually connected to the router. At this point my best guess is that the OP has at least five, perhaps more devices connected to one crappy little residential router, and it is understandably not at all happy with the situation, so it is flaking out. Maybe it's time to start perhaps some resource limits on your connected devices via the router interface, or else tweak your Debian system to not overhwelem the darned thing by lowering the maximum number of simul requests, etc. /guessing Best, AM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTin_mstXV9_zFaSKOHJfNbzmzGCovcByVouXRJK3(a)mail.gmail.com
From: H.S. on 25 Jun 2010 17:50 On 06/25/10 14:44, vr wrote: > On 6/25/2010 5:57 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote: >> Hi, >> >> For one week now, I sometimes `loose' any access to the LAN and the WAN. >> Here is the way I am connected to the Internet: >> >> ISP (house's wall) -> ISP modem (RJ-45) -> D-Link DIR-635 router >> (RJ-45) >> -> Switch (RJ-45) -> 192.168.0.101 (this computer). >> > [snip] > > Does your ISP claim to disallow routers or possibly charge extra for > multiple PC's? Might be time to input your PC's MAC in the MAC spoofing > section of your router. > Mac address is usually an issue in cable internet connections. In any case, router/modems usually have a feature called "clone mac address" exactly for this kind of situation, it clones the mac address of your hardware and shows that mac address to the peer on ISP's side. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i0380q$qt6$1(a)dough.gmane.org
From: Merciadri Luca on 25 Jun 2010 18:10 John Hasler wrote: > Merciadri Luca writes: > > > Their modem knows it: it's connected to your router via ethernet. > Well, I had forgotten this. Thanks for pointing this out. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me.
From: Merciadri Luca on 25 Jun 2010 18:20 H.S. wrote: > On 06/25/10 14:44, vr wrote: > > > Mac address is usually an issue in cable internet connections. In any > case, router/modems usually have a feature called "clone mac address" > exactly for this kind of situation, it clones the mac address of your > hardware and shows that mac address to the peer on ISP's side. > Sad to need to go so far to enjoy something you already pay for. But, well, as I said earlier, I had never had any problems with my ISP before. Thus, except if they radically changed their policy... -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me.
From: Merciadri Luca on 25 Jun 2010 18:20
Arthur Machlas wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Celejar <celejar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > My ISP provided me with a "router" / modem, however the router is of > the extremely handicapped variety. Thus, I had to go into the > interface of the router/modem and tell it to act only as a gateway. > The only device that ever connects to that gateway is my linksys > router, so the ISP should have no way of telling how many devices are > actually connected to the router. > > At this point my best guess is that the OP has at least five, perhaps > more devices connected to one crappy little residential router, and it > is understandably not at all happy with the situation, so it is > flaking out. > > Maybe it's time to start perhaps some resource limits on your > connected devices via the router interface, or else tweak your Debian > system to not overhwelem the darned thing by lowering the maximum > number of simul requests, etc. > But if I buy a router with 4 LAN ports, it *should* offer good quality services for all the 4 ports, shouldn't it? AFAICR the manual (well, I never read manuals), it is said nowhere not to exploit `too much' the router! Your explanation might be the key to my problems, but what else can you buy if you need to connect >4 computers? If you want something a little bit `bigger' (hoping for `stronger' too), you need to buy some 20 or 40-port router, which is completely useless for me. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. We are all geniuses up to the age of ten. (Aldous Huxley) |