Upgrading Windows 98
in [Home Built PC]
|
From: John Doe on 1 Jan 2010 18:48 "Mike Easter" <MikeE ster.invalid> wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> "Mike Easter" < >>> John Doe wrote: >>>> Metspitzer >> >>>>> I have a friend. He is trying to get an Ethernet adapter to >>>>> work with his old machine. He says that he has 98 but he >>>>> needs 98 second version. >>> >>>> Prove yourself to be a real friend, stop screwing around with >>>> Windows 98 and upgrade his computer to Windows XP. >>> >>> I don't think the advice to upgrade to XP is good advice >>> unless you know what the hardware is, >> >> Are you asking what the hardware is? > > The OP didn't say. If you need to know, you should ask. >>> how the licensing costs would/could be handled or avoided, and >>> how the machine is purposed. >> >> Are you asking how the machine is purposed? > > The OP didn't say. If you need to know, you should ask. >>> There is a lot of machine hardware and purpose possibilities >>> which > can >>> not and should not be so upgraded. >> >> Bullshit. > > That reply has no meaning in this context. It fits your assertion perfectly, Mikey. > The OP's friend's hardware may not be appropriate for XP while > it is appropriate for W98 - That is possible, but then there are such things as "upgrades". > The OP's friend may not wish to pay for XP licensing Are you his accountant, Mikey? > The limitations of W98 may not be a problem for the unknown > purpose of the OP's friend. Windows 98 sucks next to Windows XP. > given the limitations of the original post's information If you are ignorant and need to know, Mikey, you should ask... > and what you are saying may be bullshit based on the conditions > for the OP's friends machine and its purpose. A machine running Windows XP can easily be assumed to have practically the same purpose as a machine running Windows 98. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WINDOWS XP IS INCREDIBLY BETTER THAN WINDOWS 98. Hardware requirements matter, but even a slow computer running Windows XP is better than the same computer running Windows 98. -- > > > -- > Mike Easter > > > > Path: news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!news.wiretrip.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail > From: "Mike Easter" <MikeE ster.invalid> > Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt > Subject: Re: Upgrading Windows 98 > Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:55:03 -0800 > Lines: 50 > Message-ID: <7q799nF8n7U1 mid.individual.net> > References: <t5ikj55en0nhe0klsih84f3o06qqgjdpko 4ax.com> <00b679fd$0$12998$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> <7q75mpFl3sU1 mid.individual.net> <00ec7df3$0$27968$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Trace: individual.net a9xNbk0hkE7djLUKexDDlAZV1i88ApEl0y2jxJNQjmSxwDyPlw > Cancel-Lock: sha1:4jF4fmmj0L8p9N7wydaUImEUvro= > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >
From: John Doe on 1 Jan 2010 18:57 > Windows 98 sucks next to Windows XP. I would be surprised if any regular in this group is ignorant of that fact. Like some others here probably do, I push the envelope regularly, Windows XP makes doing difficult stuff on a PC possible without so many persistent hassles coming from the operating system (31/95/98/SE/ME) itself. And then there is stuff that prior versions of Windows just cannot do. The only problem I have with XP is the likelihood that upgrading will be necessary someday.
From: "nobody >" on 1 Jan 2010 20:47 Mike Easter wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> Metspitzer > >>> I have a friend. He is trying to get an Ethernet adapter to >>> work with his old machine. He says that he has 98 but he needs >>> 98 second version. > >> Prove yourself to be a real friend, stop screwing around with >> Windows 98 and upgrade his computer to Windows XP. > > I don't think the advice to upgrade to XP is good advice unless you know > what the hardware is, how the licensing costs would/could be handled or > avoided, and how the machine is purposed. > > There is a lot of machine hardware and purpose possibilities which can > not and should not be so upgraded. > > I support a small fleet of laptops at work running 98SE because of it's DOS capability. There's an huge amount of "industrial software" out there for (non-computer) "legacy devices" that will only run on DOS. There's even a working Windows for Workgroups (WFG 3.11) install on those for some old 3x Windows apps. One get's very adept with SETVER, "Mo'Slo", and such doing this. The NT OSs (NT, W2K, XP, Vi-stab-in-the-back, W7) won't work well (if at all) on many of these old apps due to their "non-direct" access to serial and parallel ports. I also support a few senior citizens whose income won't handle a new(er) computer. They also aren't willing (or capable) of moving to new apps and OSs.
From: John Doe on 1 Jan 2010 21:26 "nobody >" <usenetharvested aol.com> wrote: > I support a small fleet of laptops Sure you do... > Windows for Workgroups (WFG 3.11) install Been there, done that, but it has nothing to do with the subject at hand. If you are saying that a computer on which Windows 3.1 was installed probably will not handle Windows XP, who needs to know that? > The NT OSs (NT, W2K, XP, Vi-stab-in-the-back, W7) So you feel ripped off by Microsoft? Maybe next time you will know what you are doing before upgrading (or not upgrading). > won't work well (if at all) on many of these old apps due to > their "non-direct" access to serial and parallel ports. Nowadays, there are free applications that surpass the junk you are talking about. But seriously... What sort of mysterious ancient applications that only run on a junk computer are you talking about? > I also support a few senior citizens whose income won't handle a > new(er) computer. If all you can afford is an IBM PC XT, you are not going to be running the vastly superior operating system Windows XP. But finances is a different subject and clearly the original poster does not have that problem. Being able to afford something is personal and has nothing to do with this group since no one here can decide that for you or them. > They also aren't willing (or capable) of moving to new OSs. That is why you sound ignorant to me (and apparently you did not read my original reply). An operating system, even from Microsoft, is almost entirely under the hood. And Windows XP can be made to look exactly like Windows 98. Given the minimal hardware requirements, the only difference would be that their computers run better and that they would not have to see you as often. -- > Path: news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!news1.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail > NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:47:56 -0600 > Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:47:54 -0800 > From: "nobody >" <usenetharvested aol.com> > User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt > Subject: Re: Upgrading Windows 98 > References: <t5ikj55en0nhe0klsih84f3o06qqgjdpko 4ax.com> <00b679fd$0$12998$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> <7q75mpFl3sU1 mid.individual.net> > In-Reply-To: <7q75mpFl3sU1 mid.individual.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100101-0, 01/01/2010), Outbound message > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > Message-ID: <s_-dnYKNApRQOKPWnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d supernews.com> > Lines: 35 > X-Trace: sv3-Dl9PggdII0CThtr8tqOwftz46fRO7qC5y7zkjY+Wadzpn+06h+BWOrDKj/QCnObJ0t6zTAFXy/h466X!GBzwIDM+UeF16Vcv7xRRDKB3MX+EjRe552YDRGWqoe7R94+bj7teJeKXNEF4WWkN1HQ+uHIdjKaS!VvW+fDvN9Hs= > X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html > X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers > X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly > X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 >
From: Toolpackinmama on 1 Jan 2010 23:51
Metspitzer wrote: > I installed XP and the network card. > Everything is working fine. > Awesome! I am curious to know what the machine is? How about a model name or number? |