Upgrading Windows 98
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From: John Doe on 4 Jan 2010 01:11 "GEO" Me home.here wrote: > edfair <edfair.447hu2 no.email.invalid> wrote: >>This is kinda a replay of the 95/3.1 arguement I had with a buddy. He >>insisted that 95 was the greatest thing since sliced bread until I >>pointed out that the 3.1 would boot, work for what I needed, and shut >>down before the 95 was finished booting. >> >>98 is fine for some things. If a user is comfortable with it, more >>power to them. I keep one machine triple booting SE. It works for what >>it is set up for, and like the 3.1 in the previous paragraph, it boots, >>does what it is supposed to, and shuts down while the XP is still >>stirring the pot. >> >>Reminds me of the Eastwood line in one of his movies: "You've got to >>know your limitations." > > Well said. Please elaborate. Are you stuck using Windows 98? -- > > Geo > > > > Path: news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!news.glorb.com!feeder.erje.net!feeder.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!not-for-mail > From: "GEO" Me home.here > Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt > Subject: Re: Upgrading Windows 98 > Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:57:54 GMT > Organization: A noiseless patient Spider > Lines: 22 > Message-ID: <4b415274.35418770 news.eternal-september.org> > References: <t5ikj55en0nhe0klsih84f3o06qqgjdpko 4ax.com> <00b679fd$0$12998$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> <7q75mpFl3sU1 mid.individual.net> <00ec7df3$0$27968$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> <7q799nF8n7U1 mid.individual.net> <00afd629$0$8059$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> <001d7ee6$0$2160$c3e8da3 news.astraweb.com> <edfair.447hu2 no.email.invalid> > X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX1/w2Tp8039HASENWYoSHyDJN7jNE42eUBayYeYnk5N1aXmUJnoOPflrjC0CFYq0c8WAjFSPKsCWTPpR4fBe+92JUAjEolpkp9QDVFMFwht4BQOGq4I1fEPHpGozRRBZrWXhUaSM7sbdKA== > X-Complaints-To: abuse eternal-september.org > NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:01:49 +0000 (UTC) > X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/16.243 > X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX186mwrOFHt0EECzVNOzmg/ml5YnG3f3umKzCMYic1pOJA== > Cancel-Lock: sha1:lWyFB5+rS0blW2GfYP2538GV+TM= >
From: Toolpackinmama on 4 Jan 2010 12:01 98 Guy wrote: > Win-98 was not vulnerable to any exploit that could result in remote > code execution resulting in control over the machine. There were never > any network worms that could do that to win-98. > > Many of the IE exploits that were used against XP never worked correctly > on win-98. Interesting. I learned something new today. Still, it is OLD NEWS. Old news... is that an oxymoron? :) You know, newspapers and books aren't vulnerable to code execution exploits, either. You also can't run any modern programs on them. > Every few years we rebuilt all PC's with new hardware (motherboards, > hard drives, video cards, etc). Currently our win-98 systems are > running with 512 mb ram, 80 gb hard drives, 256 mb Nvidia AGP-8x video > cards, Socket 478 P4 Celerons or Pentiums (2.6 ghz), i845 chipset > motherboards. > Your Win 98 systems don't run Dragon Age: Origins.
From: Toolpackinmama on 4 Jan 2010 12:06 Look, the computer that first went to the moon was little better than a primitive pocket calculator. It was good enough for them, why don't we just stick with that? I'll tell you why: because the cheapest 250.00 netbook you can buy now is ten times better than any system that was built for Windows 98. Come on you cheapskates, buy a new computer.
From: John Doe on 4 Jan 2010 12:25 Toolpackinmama <philnblanc(a)comcast.net> wrote: > 98 Guy wrote: > >> Win-98 was not vulnerable to any exploit that could result in >> remote code execution resulting in control over the machine. >> There were never any network worms that could do that to >> win-98. >> >> Many of the IE exploits that were used against XP never worked >> correctly on win-98. > > Interesting. I learned something new today. Still, it is OLD > NEWS. > > Old news... is that an oxymoron? :) > > You know, newspapers and books aren't vulnerable to code > execution exploits, either. You also can't run any modern > programs on them. And then there is the (need for stability) comparison between pulling a little red wagon on a country road and operating heavy machinery or racing...
From: Mike Easter on 4 Jan 2010 12:26
Toolpackinmama wrote: > the cheapest 250.00 netbook you can buy now > is ten times better than any system that was built for Windows 98. Come > on you cheapskates, buy a new computer. However; the best deal you can get on a computer which comes preconfigured with an operating system is one with either windows7 or vista or maybe XP if it is sufficiently hardware deficient to qualify for the OEM XP license (instead of the Win7 starter). Then, along with that pre-installed OS which does *NOT* come with a MS installation disk, you get a boatload of bloatware. So next, in order to have a lean and mean OS plus only the apps of your personal choice, you have to go thru' the installation picking out all of the little parts which are imbedded into the registry. That is, you have to 'de-construct' the OS plus junk and try to create a good OS + apps yourself. Then after that you have to make some kind of image or clone of your debloated system -- because you have no OS installation disk, only an image of what you bought with the bloatware. Else you have to spend approximately twice as much for your hardware and put it together yourself and then buy a MS operating system at full retail -- no OEM mfr price breaks for the end user to install it from scratch. Alternatives are to steal the OS off a bit torrent or to install some other non-MS OS such as linux. -- Mike Easter |