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From: jimp on 23 May 2010 13:02 In sci.physics habshi(a)anony.net wrote: > OK how much oil energy does it take to lift a barrel of oil , two > miles from deep underground ? Depending on conditions, it may come up all by itself. If it has to be pumped, it is pumped with electricity and electricty doesn't come from oil. So the answer is none. You are still an idiot. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
From: habshi on 23 May 2010 14:46 The point is that many of these oil fields are in desert areas with lots and lots of free sunshine, so it makes sense to use solar power to pump up the oil and pump it into pipelines , rather than use oil and diesel generators.
From: spudnik on 23 May 2010 14:56 that'd be a different, "hybrid" technology; econometrics would be applied by the company. now, an argument could be made, that most machines wil work, better, in the shade, so, why not shade with PVs? on the other hand, you'd need a lightbulb, to grow hemp or "biodeisel" under neath them. > The point is that many of these oil fields are in desert areas with > lots and lots of free sunshine, so it makes sense to use solar power > to pump up the oil and pump it into pipelines , rather than use oil > and diesel generators. thusNso: why reply to BURNT, I ask you. why do I reply to you & your so-called theory, you could legitimately answer! anyway, if you take your statement (beolwsville) seriously, then it would be an infinitessimal part of the wave, and you'd be back at the useless "point particles" of "classical physics" or just Newtonianism. it is certainly unfortunate that Einstein may have been thinking of this, when he coined the term, photon ... but, it's better to have your Theory of Everything be built upon a foundation of little rocks o'light, than to have a big pile of rocks on your toe. > There is only THE wave associated with a photon. The 'particle' > occupies a very small region of THE wave. thusNso: aside from "your English sucks, badly," I really don't know what you mean, because it changes from day to day. why would a photon have a minimum mass of 10^-90 kilograms, and what in Hell is the Dimensions Game?... well, if you cannot answer either question, Game Over! > it seems that no one here understands > or understood the dimension 'game,' better than me. thsNso: quaternions have three signs (unary operators), i, j & k; now, if you wanted to get rid of the minus sign, as well, that would be an additional problem. since you do not propose to get rid of addition (binary operator) or multiplication (binary operator), but use the symbols for those operators in your hare-brained additions ... it just makes me feel bad, unless you can prove, that you don't need subtractions or negatives. on the wayside, i may not fully grok the idea of unary operators, but "exp()" and "ln()" are canonically such. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Hall_effect > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_quantum_Hall_effect thusNso there may not have been any exposition, but I didn't think of that, that his hare-brained attempt unconsciously obliterated the pythagorean theorem, iff it actualy did any thing, at all, that any one could comprehend, including doctor Martin. thusNso: is he trying to prove that all solutions to the Fermat curves, pass only through irrational points on the grid?... welcome to the club! well, he ceraintly didn't prove that, as far as I can see (but I'm wearing the oldstyle 3d glasses, so, y'never know .-) thusNso: yeah; first, do no harm, or assign yourself to an automatic "opt-in to your killfile, thank *me*." anyway, that is not Bucky's system, but Cliff's. at least, he is not among the fanatics, who beleive what Bucky saith, that he alleviated the need for math with Nature's Co-ordinating System -- as important as some of that is. "to remove me from your killfile, send your Social Security Number to tim(a)polysignosis.org; thank *you*." thsNso: "pressure equals a third of energy density" -- really?... well, a tetrahedron is a third of the volume of the parallelopiped that it's inscribed in; so, there. "spacetime" is a totally useless word for concepts, since it is merely phase-space of ordinary space; just use quaternions, real part as time. (funny thing: I just read that Hoagland's "hyperdimensional physics" was nothing but quaternions "a la Maxwell," Yahoo!TM .-) thusNso: I don't see any neccesary resaon for *any* irrational number to have a maximum run of any digit in what ever integral base; so, rake one coal over yourself for propitiating such a silly idea! on the wayside, 0.999.... does not = 1; it equals 1.000...., the "real"number, one; take a hop, a skip & a jump over Tony Robinson's bed of coals. thusNso: the second part of the question is clearly trivial, and the first part seems to be its inverse, or what ever. have Farey sequences ever been used for continued fractions, or does that make any sense, at all? > Example: The fraction 4 / 97 occur in the place 197 of > the Farey's sequence of order 113. How can I know it > without calculate all the smaller terms? --Pi, the surfer's canonical value -- good to at least one place! http://wlym.com
From: jimp on 23 May 2010 15:06 In sci.physics habshi(a)anony.net wrote: > The point is that many of these oil fields are in desert areas with > lots and lots of free sunshine, so it makes sense to use solar power > to pump up the oil and pump it into pipelines , rather than use oil > and diesel generators. If any of that were true it would already be done that way. Since it isn't, one can only conclude that you are still an idiot. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply.
From: habshi on 24 May 2010 18:08
If this report is true , then its totally amazing. To generate eight nuclear power plants worth in less than eighteen months would be a phenomenol achievement. The ever inventive Israelis are getting 70% efficiency in combined electric and heat solar plants , 30% electric and 40% thermal. At that rate just 1sq km would give about 1GW of power , and the total world energy needs would come from as little as 50,000 sq km of land worldwide or a small part of the Rajasthan desert ! excerpt All over India more than 800 investors have applied for such projects � totalling to a staggering 8,000 mega watt of solar power inviting an investment of Rs 1,20,000 crore. They have deposited a hefty nonrefundable fee of Rs 25,000 per mega watt and gave a heavy bank guarantee also. All these applicants are serious about installing solar power projects and have invested heavily on selecting the technology supplier, arranging land and creating infrastructure at remote locations . It is to be seen as to what the government will do with these applications. The question is � does the government have any �infrastructure' and �will' to consume this 8,000 mega watt within 18 months time frame fixed for the completion of the power project. |