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From: SOB) on 28 Mar 2005 15:52 On 28 Mar 2005 10:28:07 -0800, "Hector Plasmic" <hec(a)hectorplasmic.com> wrote: >> If we restate it "If there is a God and if He intervenes in >> our lives, then He works in mysterious ways," it seems >> that the conclusion follows from the premises. > >This statement would be equivalent to "If there is a god and if it >intervenes in our lives, we cannot know it." NOP. No information >contained therein. What do you all mean by "intervenes in our lives"? What kind of "intervention"? -- Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html "If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
From: Hector Plasmic on 28 Mar 2005 16:07 > What do you all mean by "intervenes in our lives"? > What kind of "intervention"? That'd be a mystery, don't you reckon? :-)
From: SOB) on 28 Mar 2005 20:58 On 28 Mar 2005 13:07:19 -0800, "Hector Plasmic" <hec(a)hectorplasmic.com> wrote: >> What do you all mean by "intervenes in our lives"? >> What kind of "intervention"? >That'd be a mystery, don't you reckon? :-) OK, then what is meant by "mysterious intervention in our lives"? -- Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html "If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
From: 666interface on 29 Mar 2005 02:09 The great philosopher-criminologist wrote: > What is wrong with saying that God works in Mysterious ways? > dont get me started -- /----------------\ |666interface | |are u ready...? | \----------------/
From: Gavan on 29 Mar 2005 03:33
"The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:<1112021261.561487.254110(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>... > Gavan wrote: > > "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> > wrote in message > news:<1111967033.368785.207600(a)f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>... > > > Gavan wrote: > > > > "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> > > > wrote in message > > > news:<1111880705.429415.226920(a)f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>... > > > > > Denis Loubet wrote: > > > > > > "The great philosopher-criminologist" > <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> > > > > > wrote in > > > > > > message > > > news:1111874993.415822.226320(a)l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > What is wrong with saying that God works in Mysterious > ways? > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, if it said to excuse the supposed actions of a god, > then > > > the > > > > > one > > > > > > saying it is stating that they don't actually care what the > god > > > they > > > > > believe > > > > > > in does, or what its motives are, they'll just worship it > anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a big denial of personal responsibility. It's like > saying > > > "I'll > > > > > follow > > > > > > that Hitler guy anywhere. I know he kills Jews, but I'm sure > he > > > has > > > > > our best > > > > > > interests at heart." > > > > > > > > > > Well, for some people, as long as they are comforted, that is > all > > > that > > > > > matters. > > > > > > > > How hypocritical that someone who espouses the virtues of an > > > > organisation that proclaims peace and love for all would now say > that > > > > one's own comfort is all that matters. > > > > > > This is just in response to those that ask, "Why did God help you > with > > > your success while he lets someone else in another part of the > world > > > starve.?" > > > > > > I am just saying that some people say that if God wants to work > like > > > that, then that is okay with them. > > > > This sort of attitudue would be in conflict with the teachings of > > almost all major religions wouldn't it? > > Hey, Ayn Rand believed something similar. For my next question; When you use the word 'works'are you implying that god exerts some sort of control over our lives and the paths they take? If you are could you please define for me exactly what form this takes. Also with the euthanasia debate flaring again due to the Terri Schiavo case do you believe that it is god who determines whether or not a person dies and the manner in which this death will take place? |