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From: SOB) on 29 Mar 2005 09:18 On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:09:50 GMT, 666interface <666interface(a)hotpop.com> wrote: >The great philosopher-criminologist wrote: >> What is wrong with saying that God works in Mysterious ways? >dont get me started What is meant by "Mysterious Ways"? -- Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html "If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
From: SOB) on 29 Mar 2005 09:21 On 29 Mar 2005 05:08:00 -0800, "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: >suppose one person wanted >to be a correctional officer and that person fails the test to become >one. It was in the control of God. That person then want on to become a >lawyer and succeeded. That person would say, "God wanted me to be a >lawyer all along." That person also has to feel it in his heart too. Only the Devil can motivate someone to become a lawyer. God would never coerce someone to become evil. -- Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html "If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
From: SOB) on 29 Mar 2005 09:26 On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:29:00 GMT, Elroy Willis <elroywillis(a)swbell.net> wrote: >>> So all those people who died on 9/11 died because your god willed >>> their deaths? And the hundreds of thousands that died in the last >>> tsunami died because it was your god willed them to die? >> Planned it all from the beginning. >So you basically worship a mass murderer. How nice. You all are assuming that God knows about such events in advance. But that cannot be the case, because God cannot be expected to do something that contradicts reality. Don't let the theologians brainwash you into this omniscience nonsense. There are aspects of reality that are intrinsically Unknowable, and that means that even God cannot know them. Theologians like to hide behind the "infinite" when they don't understand something. Actually, the "infinite" is a mathematical concept, not a metaphysical one. And as Turing, Godel and Russell showed, Mathematics is not the same as Metaphysics. God cannot be expected to do something that contradicts reality. Foreknowledge of things that are intrinsically unknowable is not possible. This line of thinking solves the dilemna of Free Will. You can make decisions that even God does not know about until you make them. Therefore it is useless to blame God for your mistakes or accidents of nature, like floods. -- Million Mom March For Gun Confiscation http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/mmm.html "If you build a man a fire and he will be warm for a day. If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life."
From: Robibnikoff on 29 Mar 2005 10:17 "The great philosopher-criminologist" <bedford_park2000(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:1112102440.840079.321670(a)f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Elroy Willis wrote: > > The great philosopher-criminologist wrote in alt.atheism > > > > >> Also with the euthanasia debate flaring again due to the Terri > Schiavo > > >> case do you believe that it is god who determines whether or not a > person > > >> dies and the manner in which this death will take place? > > > > > Yes. > > > > So all those people who died on 9/11 died because your god willed > > their deaths? And the hundreds of thousands that died in the last > > tsunami died because it was your god willed them to die? > > Planned it all from the beginning. And you worship this sadist? Nice. -- ------ Robyn Resident Witchypoo #1557
From: Robibnikoff on 29 Mar 2005 10:18
"Sweet Ol' Bob (SOB)" <sob(a)sob.com> wrote in message news:42496478.6271758(a)news-server.houston.rr.com... > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:29:00 GMT, Elroy Willis > <elroywillis(a)swbell.net> wrote: > > >>> So all those people who died on 9/11 died because your god willed > >>> their deaths? And the hundreds of thousands that died in the last > >>> tsunami died because it was your god willed them to die? > > >> Planned it all from the beginning. > > >So you basically worship a mass murderer. How nice. > > You all are assuming that God knows about such events in advance. But > that cannot be the case, because God cannot be expected to do > something that contradicts reality. Why? Because that's what you believe? Hm, not much of a god then, is it. -- ------ Robyn Resident Witchypoo #1557 |