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From: mike on 20 Dec 2006 06:16
ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote:
> Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk
> checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160
> GB)? On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write
> errors. Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off and on
> to access the HDD again. I also tried different power and USB cables
> since many people use the same HDD. Also, it is not heat beause
> sometimes I get this problem after a few minutes after powering on from
> room temperature (not warm either).
>
> Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing
> deep. Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, but I
> don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, but it done
> via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :(
>
> Thank you in advance. :)
Check out seagate seatools online.
See if that does what you want.
mike
From: Arno Wagner on 20 Dec 2006 08:51
Previously mike <spamme9(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote:
>> Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk
>> checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160
>> GB)? On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write
>> errors. Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off and on
>> to access the HDD again. I also tried different power and USB cables
>> since many people use the same HDD. Also, it is not heat beause
>> sometimes I get this problem after a few minutes after powering on from
>> room temperature (not warm either).
>>
>> Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing
>> deep. Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, but I
>> don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, but it done
>> via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :(
>>
>> Thank you in advance. :)
> Check out seagate seatools online.
> See if that does what you want.

It does not. I checked recently because someone claimed these
tools could do SMART over USB. They can not.

Arno
From: Al Dykes on 20 Dec 2006 09:03
In article <4ustfuF19nrn9U2(a)mid.individual.net>,
Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote:
>Previously mike <spamme9(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote:
>>> Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk
>>> checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160
>>> GB)? On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write
>>> errors. Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off and on
>>> to access the HDD again. I also tried different power and USB cables
>>> since many people use the same HDD. Also, it is not heat beause
>>> sometimes I get this problem after a few minutes after powering on from
>>> room temperature (not warm either).
>>>
>>> Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing
>>> deep. Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, but I
>>> don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, but it done
>>> via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :(


In the last resort, pull the disk out of the USB box and hook it up to
an IDE controller in a PC.

I'd run the "Drive Fitness test" downloaded from the disk
manufacturer's web site (not the USB box's manufacturer.) I figure
that the disk maker has access to specifics for the disk and it's
free. If it gives you an error code you might even be able to find
out what it means.

I've seen Partition Magic's file system check command find a problem
in an NTFS file system that chkdsk didn't see. This was an XP system
and PM decided it couldn't resize the partition for me. PITA. The
file system problem was at the NTFS level, not the hardware. It came
from the factory, broken. Restoring from the "recovery disk" left me
in the same place.

FWIW, circa NT4, I saw PerfectDisk find MFT problems that Chkdsk
couldn't find.

I'm not a big fan of Chkdsk, especially for production servers.


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From: Paul Rubin on 20 Dec 2006 10:18
adykes(a)panix.com (Al Dykes) writes:
> A third; only power the drive up when doing a backup ?
> It won't get very hot, or for lots of hours.

Backups involve having the drive very active for longish periods.
That's what makes drives get hot, from what I can tell. I have a 3.5"
160gb Seagate 7200.x drive (not sure of exact model) in a generic usb2
enclosure with a tiny fan. It runs cool when idling or slightly
active even when I run it overnight. But doing a backup, it's quite
warm after 10 minutes or so, and the backup takes much longer than
that.
From: Arno Wagner on 20 Dec 2006 10:59
Previously Paul Rubin <http://phr.cx(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> adykes(a)panix.com (Al Dykes) writes:
>> A third; only power the drive up when doing a backup ?
>> It won't get very hot, or for lots of hours.

> Backups involve having the drive very active for longish periods.
> That's what makes drives get hot, from what I can tell. I have a 3.5"
> 160gb Seagate 7200.x drive (not sure of exact model) in a generic usb2
> enclosure with a tiny fan. It runs cool when idling or slightly
> active even when I run it overnight. But doing a backup, it's quite
> warm after 10 minutes or so, and the backup takes much longer than
> that.

For short backups, it should be ok. For any longer activity, only
adequate cooling will work. Not that Seagates or Samsungs are quite
as sensitive to heat, but hot HDD are never good.

Arno
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