From: ANTant on 19 Dec 2006 21:14 Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160 GB)? On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write errors. Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off and on to access the HDD again. I also tried different power and USB cables since many people use the same HDD. Also, it is not heat beause sometimes I get this problem after a few minutes after powering on from room temperature (not warm either). Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing deep. Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, but I don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, but it done via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :( Thank you in advance. :) -- [Laser pulsing] "Bah. It's as easy as crushing an ant! You know, the..." [grunting] "Wh-wh-whoa! Hey, take my wallet and leave me alone!" --Mr. Burns from The Simpsons (Fraudcast News; FABF16/FABF18 episode) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( )
From: Rod Speed on 19 Dec 2006 21:56 ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: > Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk > checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160 GB)? None that do what SpinRite claims to do. > On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write errors. Thats usually a problem with the bridge in the box, lousy design. > Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off > and on to access the HDD again. I also tried different power > and USB cables since many people use the same HDD. You could try a different USB port, or a USB PCI card in the PC. > Also, it is not heat beause sometimes I get this problem after a few > minutes after powering on from room temperature (not warm either). > Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing deep. It only 'tests' file systems, not hard drives. > Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, > but I don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, > but it done via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :( If all you want to do is exercise the drive thats USB connnected, you could try Bart's disktool. Not sure if it works with USB connected drives tho.
From: Arno Wagner on 20 Dec 2006 02:46 Previously ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: > Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk > checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160 > GB)? SpinRite is outdated enough, that it really just does a conventional surface scan these days. ONly the disk itself can do more via SMART. > On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write > errors. Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off and on > to access the HDD again. I also tried different power and USB cables > since many people use the same HDD. Also, it is not heat beause > sometimes I get this problem after a few minutes after powering on from > room temperature (not warm either). > Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing > deep. Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, but I > don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, but it done > via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :( > Thank you in advance. :) There is only one option that works and does more than a very simple scan for defective sectors: Remove the disk, connect it directly to an (S)ATA bus and do a long SMART selftest. Look at the SMART attributes and the SMART error log, before and after the test. Unfortunately this is impossible over USB. Arno
From: ANTant on 20 Dec 2006 02:54 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: > > Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk > > checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160 GB)? > None that do what SpinRite claims to do. Hmmph. > > On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write errors. > Thats usually a problem with the bridge in the box, lousy design. What do you mean by bridge? Architecture? > > Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off > > and on to access the HDD again. I also tried different power > > and USB cables since many people use the same HDD. > You could try a different USB port, or a USB PCI card in the PC. Already tried different ports (used the back) and different computers. All had the same errors. I also tried others' USB HDDs (same brand and models -- one was a different size), and no problems. I think the one I am investigating is dying. > > Also, it is not heat beause sometimes I get this problem after a few > > minutes after powering on from room temperature (not warm either). > > Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing deep. > It only 'tests' file systems, not hard drives. Ah. Speaking of testing HDDs, can I use those Maxtor disk utilites? Or do they not support external USB drives? > > Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, > > but I don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, > > but it done via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :( > If all you want to do is exercise the drive thats USB connnected, you could > try Bart's disktool. Not sure if it works with USB connected drives tho. Can I use this in regular Windows XP SP2 or do I have to boot off a BartPE?? -- [Laser pulsing] "Bah. It's as easy as crushing an ant! You know, the..." [grunting] "Wh-wh-whoa! Hey, take my wallet and leave me alone!" --Mr. Burns from The Simpsons (Fraudcast News; FABF16/FABF18 episode) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( )
From: Rod Speed on 20 Dec 2006 04:26 ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote >> ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: >>> Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk >>> checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160 GB)? >> None that do what SpinRite claims to do. > Hmmph. >>> On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write errors. >> Thats usually a problem with the bridge in the box, lousy design. > What do you mean by bridge? What is in the box that interfaces between the USB2 and PATA or SATA. > Architecture? Nope. >>> Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off >>> and on to access the HDD again. I also tried different power >>> and USB cables since many people use the same HDD. >> You could try a different USB port, or a USB PCI card in the PC. > Already tried different ports (used the back) and different computers. > All had the same errors. I also tried others' USB HDDs (same brand > and models -- one was a different size), and no problems. > I think the one I am investigating is dying. Quite possible if it didnt always do that. >>> Also, it is not heat beause sometimes I get this problem after a few >>> minutes after powering on from room temperature (not warm either). >>> Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing deep. >> It only 'tests' file systems, not hard drives. > Ah. Speaking of testing HDDs, can I use those Maxtor disk utilites? Yes. > Or do they not support external USB drives? Yes they do, in their own external housings anyway. >>> Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, >>> but I don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, >>> but it done via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :( >> If all you want to do is exercise the drive thats USB connnected, >> you could try Bart's disktool. Not sure if it works with USB >> connected drives tho. > Can I use this in regular Windows XP SP2 or do I have to boot off a BartPE?? Cant remember, try it and see.
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