What's a good HDD checker for external HDDs?
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From: Budd on 20 Dec 2006 10:04 "Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:4ustfuF19nrn9U2(a)mid.individual.net > Previously mike <spamme9(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: > > > Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk > > > checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160 > > > GB)? On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write > > > errors. Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off and on > > > to access the HDD again. I also tried different power and USB cables > > > since many people use the same HDD. Also, it is not heat beause > > > sometimes I get this problem after a few minutes after powering on from > > > room temperature (not warm either). > > > > > > Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing > > > deep. Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, but I > > > don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, but it done > > > via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :( > > > > > > Thank you in advance. :) > > Check out seagate seatools online. See if that does what you want. > It does not. You don't even know what 'he wants'. > I checked recently And how exactly did you check? > because someone claimed these tools could do SMART over USB. He doesn't want to. > They can not. That's what you say. Your word against theirs. > > Arno
From: Arno Wagner on 20 Dec 2006 13:18 Previously Budd <Budd(a)budd.com> wrote: > "Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:4ustfuF19nrn9U2(a)mid.individual.net >> Previously mike <spamme9(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: >> > > Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk >> > > checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160 >> > > GB)? On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write >> > > errors. Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off and on >> > > to access the HDD again. I also tried different power and USB cables >> > > since many people use the same HDD. Also, it is not heat beause >> > > sometimes I get this problem after a few minutes after powering on from >> > > room temperature (not warm either). >> > > >> > > Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing >> > > deep. Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, but I >> > > don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, but it done >> > > via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :( >> > > >> > > Thank you in advance. :) >> > Check out seagate seatools online. See if that does what you want. >> It does not. > You don't even know what 'he wants'. Read his OP, then you too may know what he wants... >> I checked recently > And how exactly did you check? >> because someone claimed these tools could do SMART over USB. > He doesn't want to. >> They can not. > That's what you say. Your word against theirs. They don't claim it does SMART over USB. I just verified that it indeed cannot. It is really simple to check this reliably. Arno
From: ANTant on 20 Dec 2006 13:56 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Arno Wagner <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Previously Paul Rubin <http://phr.cx(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > > adykes(a)panix.com (Al Dykes) writes: > >> A third; only power the drive up when doing a backup ? > >> It won't get very hot, or for lots of hours. > > Backups involve having the drive very active for longish periods. > > That's what makes drives get hot, from what I can tell. I have a 3.5" > > 160gb Seagate 7200.x drive (not sure of exact model) in a generic usb2 > > enclosure with a tiny fan. It runs cool when idling or slightly > > active even when I run it overnight. But doing a backup, it's quite > > warm after 10 minutes or so, and the backup takes much longer than > > that. > For short backups, it should be ok. For any longer activity, only > adequate cooling will work. Not that Seagates or Samsungs are quite > as sensitive to heat, but hot HDD are never good. Hmm, I guess I know why this HDD has problem. I *DID* use it as a regular drive. I didn't care how slow USB2 was. It was basically for playing back music, videos, copy VMware images, etc. I did notice this Maxtor USB HDD has one vent on the back. The case did get hot after a few hours. -- [Laser pulsing] "Bah. It's as easy as crushing an ant! You know, the..." [grunting] "Wh-wh-whoa! Hey, take my wallet and leave me alone!" --Mr. Burns from The Simpsons (Fraudcast News; FABF16/FABF18 episode) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( )
From: ANTant on 20 Dec 2006 14:01 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Paul Rubin <http://phr.cx(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > adykes(a)panix.com (Al Dykes) writes: > > A third; only power the drive up when doing a backup ? > > It won't get very hot, or for lots of hours. > Backups involve having the drive very active for longish periods. OR using the HDD for hours like listening to MP3 files, watching videos, VMware images, etc. Basically, using it like a regular HDD. > That's what makes drives get hot, from what I can tell. I have a 3.5" > 160gb Seagate 7200.x drive (not sure of exact model) in a generic usb2 > enclosure with a tiny fan. It runs cool when idling or slightly > active even when I run it overnight. But doing a backup, it's quite > warm after 10 minutes or so, and the backup takes much longer than > that. Yep. Mine gets hot after a few hours of activities. -- [Laser pulsing] "Bah. It's as easy as crushing an ant! You know, the..." [grunting] "Wh-wh-whoa! Hey, take my wallet and leave me alone!" --Mr. Burns from The Simpsons (Fraudcast News; FABF16/FABF18 episode) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Please remove ANT if replying by e-mail. ( )
From: Budd on 20 Dec 2006 17:04 "Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:4utd3aF19u82iU1(a)mid.individual.net > Previously Budd <Budd(a)budd.com> wrote: > > "Arno Wagner" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:4ustfuF19nrn9U2(a)mid.individual.net > > > Previously mike <spamme9(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > ANTant(a)zimage.com wrote: > > > > > Are there free programs like SpinRite that does well to do DEEP disk > > > > > checking/testings on external hard disk drives like Maxtor's USB (160 > > > > > GB)? On two computers at work, I had it had it showed delay write > > > > > errors. Then, Windows lose connections and I have to repower off and on > > > > > to access the HDD again. I also tried different power and USB cables > > > > > since many people use the same HDD. Also, it is not heat beause > > > > > sometimes I get this problem after a few minutes after powering on from > > > > > room temperature (not warm either). > > > > > > > > > > Chkdsk /f /r did not report anything. I don't think it does testing > > > > > deep. Are there any tools that will do? I am trying HD Tune v2.52, but I > > > > > don't think that's enough. I need something like SpinRite, but it done > > > > > via DOS and doesn't do USB connections. :( > > > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance. :) > > > > > Check out seagate seatools online. See if that does what you want. > > > > It does not. > > > You don't even know what 'he wants'. > Read his OP, then you too may know what he wants... Yes, and obviously you didn't or you would have known that he doesn't want to do a SMART test. He wants to exercise the drive. A S.M.A.R.T test hardly exercises the drive. > > > > I checked recently > > > And how exactly did you check? Right, and now we know you didn't. > > > > because someone claimed these tools could do SMART over USB. > > > He doesn't want to. > > > > They can not. > > > That's what you say. Your word against theirs. > They don't claim it does SMART over USB. The "someone" did. > I just verified that it indeed cannot. But you cannot and will not tell how. > It is really simple to check this reliably. Sure, you just say so and hey presto: it's proof. > > Arno
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