From: Julian G�mez on
In article <C73F45A8.4CC57%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:

> In article jeg-BBEA83.16571404122009(a)news.astraweb.com, Julian G�mez at
> jeg(a)polished-pixels.com wrote on 12/4/09 7:57 PM:
>
> > In article <4b12eb41$0$21653$ba624c82(a)nntp02.dk.telia.net>,
> > Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
> >> Since it's a G4, I'll recommend to replace the disk with a
> >> WesternDigital Scorpio. You can get a 320gb for reasonable amount of
> >> money - apprx. $100USd - maybe less depending on where you're living...
> >>
> >> Cheers, Erik Richard
> >
> > Is that what you're paying in Aarhus? Out here $100US gets you an
> > external hard disk of 1.5TB.
>
> Maybe for the platter...but for the entire drive (platter and enclosure)?

Entire unit, including AC adapter. I just bought it a few months ago,
after the click-click death of an older external hard disk. The new disk
is a Seagate Free Agent; it's $100 now, it was $130 when I bought one
during the summer.
From: Paul Magnussen on
Thanks to everyone, and especially to MH Myers, for responding to my
original query. I bought a LaCie HD big enough to accomodate both my
internal HD and the Western Digital (which was making the clicking). I
also downloaded SuperDuper and paid my money down.

I then partitioned the new disk according to the old disk sizes and
backed both the old disks up with SuperDuper, which was trivially easy
(although it took several hours).

The Western Digital now no longer mounts at boot time. It shows in Disk
Utility, but Verify and Repair are dimmed (although it looks as if I can
erase it).

Is it worth mucking about with DiskWarrior or Drive Genius (both of
which I possess), or should I (as I guess) jus throw it out, and get yet
another LaCie to back up the one I just bought?

Paul Magnussen
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

Paul Magnussen wrote:
> Thanks to everyone, and especially to MH Myers, for responding to my
> original query. I bought a LaCie HD big enough to accomodate both my
> internal HD and the Western Digital (which was making the clicking). I
> also downloaded SuperDuper and paid my money down.
>
> I then partitioned the new disk according to the old disk sizes and
> backed both the old disks up with SuperDuper, which was trivially easy
> (although it took several hours).
>
> The Western Digital now no longer mounts at boot time. It shows in Disk
> Utility, but Verify and Repair are dimmed (although it looks as if I can
> erase it).
>
> Is it worth mucking about with DiskWarrior or Drive Genius (both of
> which I possess), or should I (as I guess) jus throw it out, and get yet
> another LaCie to back up the one I just bought?

It is always good to have a backup system that can contain all your
data, so yes, I will recommend another LaCie disk of same size to which
you can make the backups to.

Regarding the WD, IF there still is warranty on the disk - some of the
WD disks have 3 or 5 years full warranty - I will recommend to send it
to WD, and you probably will get a new one of same size. This disk you
could use or sell it to lower the cost buying one more LaCie drive.

And I don't think that you will get a better or 'rescued' disk using
DiskWarrior or Drive Genius. The clicking sounds makes me think that the
problem is a mechanically one and that can't DW or DG do anything about.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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From: Nick Naym on
In article WvidnTS7UoMXurTWnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d(a)earthlink.com, Paul Magnussen at
magiconinc(a)earthlink.net wrote on 12/16/09 1:31 PM:

...
...

I'd be curious (though doubtful) whether it could be repaired via those
utilities -- but mostly as an academic exercise. As far as relying on it if
they can/do repair it, I certainly wouldn't.


>
> Is it worth mucking about with DiskWarrior or Drive Genius (both of
> which I possess), or should I (as I guess) jus throw it out, and get yet
> another LaCie to back up the one I just bought?
>
> Paul Magnussen

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From: JF Mezei on
Paul Magnussen wrote:

> The Western Digital now no longer mounts at boot time. It shows in Disk
> Utility, but Verify and Repair are dimmed (although it looks as if I can
> erase it).

I would declare the drive in a coma at this point. You could put it out
of its misery by trying to erase it(since low level formatting is not
available, second best is to erase every sector a couple of times). If
that fails, then you can be sure that the drive has failed.

If it succeeds, then the drive might be usable (but not trustable). You
could perform stress tests on it (erase 16 times for instance), and then
copy files/contents many times etc, and see how it behaves. If a stress
test does work, then you could keep the drive in a safe place, and use
it in an emergency (such as if another drive is in the process of
failing and you need a backup ASAP).